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Snowden Says He Was a Spy, Not Just an Analyst
New York Times ^ | May 28, 2014 | DAVID S. JOACHIM and SCOTT SHANE

Posted on 05/28/2014 7:46:03 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

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To: Bubba_Leroy

[The Further Adventures Of Nick Danger]

(fog horn)

ANNOUNCER

Los Angeles... He walks again by night...

NICK

(whistles)

ANNOUNCER

Out of the fog, into the smog...

NICK

(cough, cough)

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Relentlessly... ruthlessly...

NICK

I wonder where Ruth is?

ANNOUNCER

…doggedly… (bark bark)

NICK

Eh, get away from me…

ANNOUNCER

... towards his weekly meeting with... the unknown. At 4th and Drucker he turns left, at Drucker and 4th he turns right, he crosses MacArthur Park and walks into a great sandstone building. (smack)

NICK

Oh, my nose!

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Groping for the door he steps inside... (door opens/closes) (phone rings until pick up) (13 steps) climbs the 13 steps to his office, he walks in (walking/door opens)... he’s ready for mystery, (door closes/walking) he’s ready for excitement... he’s ready for anything, he’s...

NICK

(ends whistling) (pick up phone/one more ring) Nick Danger, Third Eye...

VOICE

(phone voice) I, uh, wanna order a pizza to go and no anchovies...

NICK

No anchovies? You’ve got the wrong man, I spell my name...Danger. (phone hangup)

VOICE

(phone voice) What?

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NICK

Let’s get down to business. (walk) Uncross those beautiful stems of yours, baby, here’s the case I call number 666. It all began innocently enough on Tuesday. I was sitting in my office on that drizzly afternoon listening to the monotonous staccato of rain on my desktop and reading my name on the glass of my office door. “Regnad Kcin”. My secretary lay snoring on the floor (snores) her long, beautiful gams pinioned under the couch. I didn’t hear him enter, (creaky door/walking) but my nostrils flared at the smell of his perfume... Pyramid Patchouli. There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent and I had to find out who he was.

ROCKY

Good afternoon, Mr.... Danger. I’m Rocky Rococo.

[more on the web... Firesign Theatre]


21 posted on 05/28/2014 8:25:06 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Seizethecarp
Then there is Kerry, the individual who is calling the kettle, black.

Remember, he threw his medals over the fence and testified before Congress calling us Vietnam vets barbarians, or some thing like that.

Question. Does Kerry or any of the present administration love this Country--or do they hate it?

I don't think there is any question which part they do.

22 posted on 05/28/2014 8:26:06 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: OldSmaj

"Shoot him, Elizabeth!"

23 posted on 05/28/2014 8:26:34 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: grania

I wouldn’t call him a patriot-probably a really pissed off employee turned whistleblower-and he exposed something that finally got a lot of people focused on their rights, which is a very good thing.

I’m sure Snowden wants to be out of Russia any way he can as long as it doesn’t involve death or imprisonment-it is cold and spartan there, especially since Putin pulls the strings-it is much warmer and likely friendlier someplace in S. America...

But unless this is some alternate universe, he was not a spy anywhere but in his own fantasies...


24 posted on 05/28/2014 8:27:47 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: grania

I for one agree with you completely. Government snooping has gone way beyond what the founding fathers could have even imagined. If one doesn’t believe that the Obama administration is using covert info collected in the name of fighting terrorism for political purposes they are complete fools. What real sacrifices have the Nancy Boys calling for Snowden’s head... made to ensure that our kids and grandkids will be living in a free republic? In most cases... absolutely nothing!

All it takes for our freedom to go away is for those of us who know better to stand idly by while tyranny takes over. Mr. Snowden found himself in a position where he was able to help bring these abuses to the attention of patriots everywhere. And we have all these one dimensional thinkers calling for his head? What type of fantasy world are they living in?


25 posted on 05/28/2014 8:28:24 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: BarbM

Was he wearing the cap the CIA agent gave him in Cambodia? It’s the only way I can believe him.


26 posted on 05/28/2014 8:31:29 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Noamie

No, let ME get this straight....if the Chinese or Putin had revealed this information (and they may actually be behind this), then you’d call them patriots too?


27 posted on 05/28/2014 8:35:54 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: dmz

Any technician who worked for ITT World Communications knew we monitored international traffic. If he had only revealed how the average U.S. smuck was being spied on, do you really believe the internation community would have said, “Well, our secrets are safe!”

What continues to amaze me is how divided and fractured our little community at FR continues to be. We fight over everything..to prep or not to prep...to support anyone that runs against a Democrat or only vote for the pure...and then argue about what is pure.


28 posted on 05/28/2014 8:36:59 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: Noamie

While you may appreciate the information coming out, it DOESN’t make him a patriot


29 posted on 05/28/2014 8:39:13 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Seizethecarp

I wonder how long this guy has spent with Russian Intelligence, et al?


30 posted on 05/28/2014 8:40:06 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Shame on Sam The Sham . . . Michael ScAM . . .$$$ grab all planned by this "handlers")
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To: grania

“Snowden is a patriot. He gave up a comfortable life when he exposed the NSA for what it is”

Disagree.

He is a coward and a traitor.

If he was truly concerned he could have run it up the chain, taken it to the IG, and if that didn’t work, to his Senator or Congressman (probably the best avenue).

He didn’t try any of that.

He ran.

He didn’t stand there bravely and take the spears for his “courage.”

A patriot means not backing down, being willing to pay the price for standing on your principles and for protecting the rights of Americans.

Heck, if he just stayed and acted like a man and bravely took his hits for releasing to the press I could respect him for that.

Instead, he ran and is now living comfortably in Russia.

Being a patriot does not mean running away and cowering with sworn enemies.


31 posted on 05/28/2014 8:42:14 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: grania

“I’m one of those who believes that Snowden provided a great service to the US. Until his disclosures happened, anyone under the age of 40 (or so) had no concern about how much the gov spies on every citizen.”

If you get a paperback copy of the 1982 book “The Puzzle Palace” you will find that US citizens who had been able to escape being fed “news” and “history” by the MSM already knew or strongly suspected or could project in broad terms most of Snowden’s revelations as new technology has come available.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Puzzle_Palace

IMO Snowden is profoundly naïve or a traitorous double agent who is being too cute by half. “I accidentally ended up first in China and then in Russia on the way to Venezuela by way of Cuba.”


32 posted on 05/28/2014 8:44:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: grania

Here is a book that you will find very interesting, “Black List” by Brad Thor.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-List-Thriller-Brad-Thor/dp/1439192987/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0

“All of the technology contained in this novel is based upon systems currently being deployed, or in the final stages of development, by the United States government and its partners.”

... and thus begins `Black List’ by Brad Thor.


33 posted on 05/28/2014 8:45:01 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (There's no there there.)
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To: grania

in full agreement with you.


34 posted on 05/28/2014 8:45:05 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Gadsden1st

Sad, isn’t it.


35 posted on 05/28/2014 8:45:09 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Gadsden1st

He specifically leaked that we had Angela Merkel’s phone tapped and were listening in on her calls. A bit beyond what a typical ITT tech knew, doncha think?

And I’m sure that Putin took him in for information that was known by every ITT tech, right?


36 posted on 05/28/2014 8:47:08 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Seizethecarp

006.3. Licensed to talk.


37 posted on 05/28/2014 8:49:00 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Hulka

What is your opinion of all of the survivors of the Bengazi attack that have refused to go public. Are they cowards or patriots for remaining silent?


38 posted on 05/28/2014 8:49:05 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: Noamie

Snowden is not a traitor-he put out info that we all should have been smart enough to know the Obamamafia was collecting, but were too glazed to see it.

If an angry private sector employee leaked documents that showed the company had access to supposedly private info about stockholders and customers, it would be the same-they would get pissed off, the company would be busted at wrongdoing, file criminal theft charges, and someone would call him an industrial spy, and worse for embarrassing them and hurting their profit margin...


39 posted on 05/28/2014 9:00:24 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: dmz
I did not say techs knew what was said. I said it was common knowledge that monitoring was taking place. I did not say ITT was monitoring. At the time it was not possible to monitor every transmission, record it, analyze it, etc.

The practice of phone taps has been available since the phone was invented. You could listen in on the old “party lines” to your neighbor. The old patch cord operators could monitor the calls. The technology has improved what can be done. The government has deemed what will be done. And it appears they have deemed they will do whatever they want.

There is a difference between what is now possible yet completely unconstitutional.

40 posted on 05/28/2014 9:03:16 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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