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Fighting in Ukraine Escalates as Militia Groups Flock to Donetsk
vice.com ^ | May 27, 2014 | Harriet Salem

Posted on 05/27/2014 4:44:13 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: tcrlaf

What’s a burden is being the only one who can read, and who can see that The Daily Beast sources none of its claims, is merely repeating claims from Russian propaganda sources without independent confirmation, and ignores the obvious contradictions in the story.


21 posted on 05/27/2014 7:52:31 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: tcrlaf
Quoting the exact same unsourced blog post you linked is pretty sad, tcrlaf.

But that's what Putin lovers like you do: lie in the service of a dictator.

22 posted on 05/27/2014 7:53:55 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

The Daily Beast is Tina Brown’s reincarnation of TIME MAGAZINE.

Are they Putinista toady’s, as well now?

Really dude, your schtick has gotten laughable.


23 posted on 05/27/2014 8:05:28 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
This Muzychko was "wanted internationally" for nothing.

Russia accused him, without any evidence - and many years after the supposed incidents alleged - of crimes in Chechyna.

Yet, Russia never sought extradition.

However, you yourself are excitedly bragging that Muzychko was murdered by Russians extrajudicially on Ukraine soil.

That tells us a lot about who you are and what you value.

24 posted on 05/27/2014 8:11:16 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Blah, blah, blah...
I know, if it isn’t EuroMaidanPR-approved as printed in the Kiev Post, it cannot be sourced, right??


25 posted on 05/27/2014 8:12:59 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
It is a blog which repeats sensational articles from around the world without doing their own factchecking.

You do nothing on this site except praise Vladimir Putin. You should probably refrain from accusing anyone else here of having a schtick.

26 posted on 05/27/2014 8:14:07 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

lol...

And I’ll bet you believe that he killed himself.... TWICE... too?

Thanks, I needed a good laugh tonight, after the Pacers stinkathon.


27 posted on 05/27/2014 8:16:00 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
When have I ever posted anything from a Ukrainian site?

I try to actually think about what I read, not match propaganda with propaganda.

28 posted on 05/27/2014 8:16:50 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: tcrlaf
Why would I think that he killed himself?

After all, you have just informed us that he was extrajudicially murdered by Russian thugs, right?

29 posted on 05/27/2014 8:18:10 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

“You do nothing on this site except praise Vladimir Putin.”

I’ll bet you say that to all the boys, doncha?

OH WAIT.... You do. You call anyone who doesn’t completely tow the approved propaganda line names, like a Jr. High bully.

I can’t help but note YOU haven’t provided, or ever provide, any evidence to dispute the claim?


30 posted on 05/27/2014 8:18:18 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: wideawake

“that he was extrajudicially murdered by Russian thugs, right?”

So, you are CONFIRMING for us that Arsen Avakov is a “Russian Thug”, right?

That’s the thing about flame-trolling, you see. It never works on someone who has taken the time to inform themselves.


31 posted on 05/27/2014 8:20:17 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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I’ll bet you say that to all the boys, doncha?

Projection instead of reasoning? I'm not surprised.

After all, you seem to think that the burden lies on me to prove a negative, instead of you backing up the unsubstantiated charges you made in the first place.

32 posted on 05/27/2014 8:21:47 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: tcrlaf
No, I'm agreeing that he did not shoot himself twice.

You're the one blaming Avakov, while claiming that Russians wanted him dead.

33 posted on 05/27/2014 8:24:26 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

I provided the link, from a western media source. All you have provided is the whining. And the insulting...


34 posted on 05/27/2014 8:38:27 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: wideawake
The Daily Beast sources none of its claims, is merely repeating claims from Russian propaganda sources without independent confirmation...

Good point.

35 posted on 05/27/2014 9:08:22 PM PDT by FreeReign
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This was a BIG issue to the Russians after the coup, and was likely the reason why Avakov had him killed.

Who ever killed him...did the world a favor.

36 posted on 05/27/2014 9:09:20 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: wideawake

Do you deny that it was Avakov that ordered his arrest?

Or that Right Sector Demanded his resignation for ordering “the Murder” of Bily??

As I said, Google can be your friend. Try it sometime.


37 posted on 05/27/2014 9:18:16 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: mac_truck

“Who ever killed him...did the world a favor.”

Lots of reasons for the coup Gov to take out Bily at the time.

He was one of the ones pronouncing the end of Russian Culture in Ukraine, was directly involved in the Maidan violence, and more than once the Russians suggested that he was directly involved in the sniper attack that set off the coup, (those men have never been identified). In addition, he was making threats against people like Avakov, publicly.

His involvement in killing Russian POW’s in Chechnya was being played up by Russian Media. That was a HUGE dog-whistle to average Russians.

Removing him from the field of play was likely a good move.

Easier to kill him, than to deal with him, and his Right Sector buddies, if he is in Jail.


38 posted on 05/27/2014 9:25:56 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

You are Russian correct comrade?


39 posted on 05/27/2014 10:55:37 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: All

All information coming out of Russia including RT media and territory held in eastern Ukraine by Russian terrorists is disinformation. You can pretty much be sure any information the Kremlin-waterboys here at FR are spreading is the same. Want facts? It is the opposite of what the Russians and their useful idiots are saying.


40 posted on 05/27/2014 11:04:14 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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