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What Mass Killers Want—And How to Stop Them
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 11/08/2013 | Ari N. Schulman

Posted on 05/26/2014 8:31:14 AM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles

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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

Fame is what they CRAVE!DENY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


21 posted on 05/26/2014 10:16:17 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: null and void

Its not ignorance. It desensationalizing. Your idea is trivial.


22 posted on 05/26/2014 10:48:24 AM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

There is actually a paradox in play, in that if an armed citizen double taps the serial killer early on, the murderer does not get the serial killer label. He is just an ordinary murderer, and a dead one.

Though I suppose that if after the fact, the murderer has left some message indicating he *wanted* to be a serial killer, he might be counted among them, but as a lesser light to those who actually were serial killers. A wannabee.

But his accolades matter far less to those who were his intended victims than does the continuation of their lives.


23 posted on 05/26/2014 10:48:44 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: null and void

Its not ignorance. It desensationalizing. Your idea is trivial.


24 posted on 05/26/2014 10:50:36 AM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

This is what I have been saying! When the papers publish the scum’s “manifesto” they encourage the next deranged POS to murder and publish his “manifesto.”


25 posted on 05/26/2014 10:50:43 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Alberta's Child

The perps of these mass murders KNOW they will gain fame & infamy. The picture how it will be. How they went out in a blaze of glory. Take away the fame and you take a way a big possible motive. IMO


26 posted on 05/26/2014 10:57:37 AM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

All these suggestions are just too hard to attempt. Couldn’t we just ban all guns, declare the problem solved, and relax?


27 posted on 05/26/2014 11:04:43 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

Yes, I do believe that if there was no, or little, coverage of the event, there would be fewer of them. There really seems to be a sick cult of one-upmanship in these tragedies, and it doesn’t help that the media start placing blame before any of the details are known. They should stay pretty much local events for several days. Not only that, but it would prevent the circus stunts of gun-control, etc. from having a heyday. No issue ever gets the light of day truth-seeking these days. It’s plain sick.


28 posted on 05/26/2014 11:15:33 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

The latest homicidal maniac didn’t seem to be after the notoriety. By his own words, he was just righting a wrong and an injustice.


29 posted on 05/26/2014 11:16:59 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Ted Grant

And become a GOD in the process. He’ll be on the cover of the Rolling Stone.


30 posted on 05/26/2014 11:20:18 AM PDT by TsonicTsunami08 (SEND BITCOIN 1CYfujvffxKKPHKvrQvLP3CDb3Z5Lu7LwM)
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles
I think it's sound policy to focus on the victims in all murder cases, especially when the perp takes that walk to the death chamber. Lots less sympathy for a murderer if the pictures of his victims take his place in the news stories.

It isn't a cure, though. The UCSB guy - no, I'm not naming him - was incredibly disturbed even by the standards of conventional psychiatry. He had seen two professionals, a psychiatrist and a psychologist, and at least two counselors, and none of them picked up on just how dangerous the guy was. The police who interviewed him didn't. But you can see the spiders crawling in his brain when you read his document.

31 posted on 05/26/2014 11:28:56 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: The Working Man

“News people can’t help themselves..........”


CNN——MH370

:-)

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32 posted on 05/26/2014 11:33:46 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Alberta's Child
Anyone in law enforcement will tell you that their biggest fear is a person who goes on a crime spree who fully intends to die in the process (or at the end of it) -- because there's really nothing that can be done to deter that mutant.

That's what makes Islamists so dangerous.

33 posted on 05/26/2014 11:40:17 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

I don’t think people who are that insane have any coherent idea of what they want other than wanting to lash out and cause pain.


34 posted on 05/26/2014 11:50:24 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

What mass killers want?

UNARMED VICTIMS!!!


35 posted on 05/26/2014 12:03:48 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles
Perhaps. But it would be a total blast watching the Hollywood elites trying to explain how their guns are A-OK.

But but but but we can't make movies or TV shows without guns! they'd wail.

We'd blandly say: Ah yes. I remember all the gun fights in The Sound of Music, and that big gun battle in The Wizard of Oz, and the shootout in It's a Wonderful Life? Classic, who could forget that!

But we don't make movies like that anymore!!!

Precisely...

36 posted on 05/26/2014 12:37:41 PM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: Mears

Yes, exactly... a very good case in point.


37 posted on 05/26/2014 12:46:54 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

A correction to my last - apparently at least one of the Docs he saw did report him to authorities. Mea culpa.


38 posted on 05/26/2014 12:49:44 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

Yes, yes, yes!
However, the media will not go along. A few will, but that’s not enough. They all have to do what is suggested.

I know the media. They live and thrive on hype, blood, fear, suffering and death. There is no chance they will suddenly get responsible and do what is right for the world.

And so there will be more mass murders, more manifestos in the papers, and more mass murders, and books, and magazine cover photos, and more manifestos, and more movies.


39 posted on 05/26/2014 1:17:12 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: freerepublicchat

“That makes it difficult for them to enjoy the infamy. “

They write these long manifestos, prepare the YouTube vids and facebook posts, planning that the media will obsess over them after the killer kills himself. They would not do that for a simple suicide, but the pattern is fixed- commit a horrible crime with semiautomatic weapons then kill yourself, and we’ll show your manifesto to millions and talk about you for at least a week.

They know it will be done posthumously, and plan the worst event they can to meet the criteria of the mass media.

I agree that power is part of it, but most of these killers have a deadpan look while they are working their evil, not faces of rage or even enjoyment. Any power they wield in this world is over in 20 minutes, but CNN coverage will be hundreds of hours.


40 posted on 05/26/2014 7:32:15 PM PDT by DBrow
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