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Satanic black mass 'postponed indefinitely' amid outcry (Harvard)
Catholic News ^ | May 12, 2014 | Adelaide Mena and Michelle Bauman

Posted on 05/12/2014 6:00:39 PM PDT by narses

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To: Norm Lenhart

Absolutely you are correct when you aptly said about these things; “....it is easier to make satanism “just another faith of many”.

I know we vehemently disagree on some, but not all, things, but taking your quote above, I so agree. I have said that very thing (concerning the “smoke of satan” in the Church), that there are those *inside* Holy Mother Church, who are actively trying to dump Catholic piety in order to make us one more “denomination”, I presume so that we can fit in! Makes me furious. (Pelosi types)

I call it “protestant mega church envy”, myself. :)

The fallen culture seeps in very near each of us, to lie, steal and destroy, keeping nothing sacred. Rita


41 posted on 05/12/2014 6:54:36 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.
Nah.
The few comments directly attributed to the “cultural club” made it clear it was just your garden variety group of ignorant atheist college jerks seeking publicity and attention for their newly discovered sources of thousands year old and heavily discredited philosophies and cults.

I doubt if any serious local white or grey pagans even planned a private ceremony of public protection to counter the childish publicity stunt attempt.

But it was great to see some Christians use their own 1st Amendment rights to actively push back against the idiots for a change.

The whole cheek turning tolerance cowardly excuse for silence and inaction has been overused.

42 posted on 05/12/2014 6:56:45 PM PDT by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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To: Cicero

I’m with you, Cicero. I got the very same inferences! I think writers can’t write anymore! How’s THAT for a reason to be unclear? ?) Rita


44 posted on 05/12/2014 6:59:33 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: RitaOK

Don’t look at it as disagreeing with me. Think of it as not yet recognizing the truth of my position ;)

Seriously though, I think you’re right on the envy thing. For millenia the RC church has a lock on opulance. And that point of pride attracted many to the faith. But now that others out bling them, it is a problem.

The core of it is that the bling thing shows how infiltrated both aspects of christianity have become. Or even began. Because I never heard Christ call for Crystal Cathedrals Prosperity gospels or Vatican cities to begin with.


45 posted on 05/12/2014 7:00:29 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: vladimir998; Norm Lenhart

I think Norm is bent because our culture overlooks unbridled demonic influence and the fact that real blood sacrifices happen.


46 posted on 05/12/2014 7:07:53 PM PDT by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: narses

They’ll do it anyway, but with less publicity.


47 posted on 05/12/2014 7:12:09 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: narses

I would love to see these idiots turned to ash.


48 posted on 05/12/2014 7:12:37 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: narses

This is going to be used to crack down on Christianity.


49 posted on 05/12/2014 7:14:07 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: vladimir998

Babies are sacrificed in America every day. It’s nothing new.


50 posted on 05/12/2014 7:14:10 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Norm Lenhart

You are 100% right on this one.


51 posted on 05/12/2014 7:15:01 PM PDT by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Cicero

Whining? Cicero informs you with the facts and it’s, “whut”?

To cradle “free expression” as Harvard does, in this case to excuse satanists desecrating a consecrated host is hilarious, when after 13 years of Leftist commencement speakers with political clout, you can not name a single alternative viewpoint Harvard has ever heard, or a conservative far right personality whose shadow has ever even been allowed to darkened a Harvard stage.

Whining? I suppose it’s whining by the RNC when they informed you that they plan to note the years of Lefty debate hosts, now planning to whine and add conservative reporters and pundits to lead the debates for a change.

Harvard. “Free expression”, my sainted aunt! Whining. Bull.


52 posted on 05/12/2014 7:18:01 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: SisterK

Close. I am just amazed that no one ever thinks things through any deeper than a headline and then wonders why the world is as it is.

People should familiarize themselves with the term “Category Error”. they will then see it played out time and again. It leads to bigger problems than the originals.

“CE” is the act of defining a problem so poorly/wrongly that there is no hope of solving it. In the meantime, the actual problem gets worse.

People spazzed, rightfully about this psuedo black mass. It is offensive to Christians just as they presented it. Absolutely. but as I said in a couple posts above, People see it as a piece of bread bring messed with. Most secular people say ‘SO?’. And because they have defined the problem so poorly (the fact that there is far more to a black mass than eucharist desicration), it is simple to just categorize it as no big deal for ‘other than christians’. Thus it gets easier to mainstream.

Had the issue been defined correctly from the get go (A black mass actually involves human sacrifice and sodimizing the person as they die) then the issue would not be so easy to sell and people may ask WTH is wrong with everyone involved.

I think the benefit is obvious.


53 posted on 05/12/2014 7:19:46 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: narses

Let them have it... Let them own it! -I say!

No doubt justice Kagen is in favor of her former employer...I was waiting for her opt-ed in “Men’s Health”.


54 posted on 05/12/2014 7:26:05 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Norm Lenhart

We are living in interesting times...The spiritual war is difficult to ignore.


55 posted on 05/12/2014 7:30:39 PM PDT by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: narses

The University president has a very interesting name.

Goethe wrote of a Dr. Faust....


56 posted on 05/12/2014 7:31:38 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: narses

Perhaps the prayers, fasting and Holy Hours had an influence.


57 posted on 05/12/2014 7:35:11 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Well,... I was thinking “mega church”, Norm, in terms not of bling, but flocks of huge proportion attending.

To your point on oppulence— after all, Our God was very fussy and precise when He commanded all that oppulence for His Temple, (Lev 25) and for those “idols”, in the form of cheribim and seraphim and great wings over the tabernacle.

Because, I never heard our Lord recall any of that oppulence or sacred art, when He and the apostles continued praying their regular hours in the oppulent Temple, before the sorrowful cricifixion. %?) Rita


58 posted on 05/12/2014 7:41:57 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: SisterK

Sadly people have gotten good at ignoring a lot of things. Which is why Category Error is so common. It’s easier to address a fictional or partially true issue that to deal with the full measure/reality of the actual one at hand.

It is, yet again, a manifestation of accepting the ‘lesser evil’. In all seriousness, who here did not wince when they read the words “Sodimizing the person as they die”?

I would bet we all did. I winced typing it. And because the reality is so hard to deal with, people minimize it to something easier to accept. They think “Well the wafer thing is bad enough”. Well to a Christian it is the Body of Christ. To an OTC it is a tasty snack that goes with cheese. Some may accept we revere what it represents or believe it to be. Many others do not.

But NO ONE can deny the evil of ‘the other thing’. And if they accept it, then they have to address the implications of the people involved. they have to ask why a College makes excuses for a ritual involving ritual human sacrifice and why the media is giddy to cover it. They have to ask many deeper questions they do not ‘feel’ comfortable asking.

So they don’t. thus America 2014.


59 posted on 05/12/2014 7:44:57 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: narses

See here is the problem.

With attacks on Christianity the Democrats are hugely alienating the black community, which is otherwise completely duped into voting 97% Democrat -contrary to thier interest.

I work with a black women who is considering converting to Islam from (devote) Christianity -pretty much due to the Liberal/progressive attack on Christianity. In the current culture...you can’t be black and not be a Democrat...AND...Christians are under constant attack by Democrats and they proxies liberals/progressives.

So...remain a Christian and be persecuted by the party you support AND lose your “blackness”...or....covert to Islam, which is the safe (if not cowardly route) in keeping with iron fisted government rule.

Which is the path of the righteous? (Sorry, a rhetorical question.)


60 posted on 05/12/2014 7:45:28 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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