Posted on 05/12/2014 5:18:23 PM PDT by SJackson
I've noted I consider the Florida incident stupid college stuff, however imo the board game, supported by the culture which created it is worth creating it. Because of what the culture which tolerated it in the 30s, did in the 40s.
Had Monopoly resulted in a peoples revolution against the capitalists, I'd refer to it in the same way.
But Monopoly, wasn't ideology sponsored by government. Shoe could win, battleship could win. Think there was a dog that could win. Long time, don't remember a government token. Nor a Minuteman token. Perhaps we should look at not the game, but what followed. Not suggesting causation, I suspect games are largely a reflection of popular culture. But not to be ignored.
Post number 9 is an explanation. I didn’t even look at the photo till later.
What an idiotic game, but there are some people who WILL go out of their way to be gratuitously shocking. It’s the devil’s tiddlywinks.
I've been called a fascist here many times, more directly a Nazi, and a communist. No big deal. Been called worse elsewhere.
I would suggest a ban on posting t things like the Juden Raus game, Germany, 1936, think of the time, is to deny the nature of the genocidal culture which spawned it.
Think about what you're saying, three years into the Reich, Dachau needs painting in a year or two, Jews are panicked to get out of Germany to everywhere, mostly to western Europe, or the east, which was a better shot, but still likely only a few more years. And Cripplecreek and I shouldn't post references to the legacy of fascist games.
Child stuff, but stupid kid stuff, worthy of criticism.
By the way what happens in the game if the Jews best the Nazis? Do they call it an Inglorious Basterds?
Too late, but would have been profitable. Maybe
The battle of good vs. evil in the world is never worthy of being ignored.
It seemed that evil was winning big time, but I dare say the good Lord had larger plans. God, I would aver, saw that Jews were getting lackadaisical about Palestine. “Why go there when we can live it up in some civilized gentile country?” Well, civilized can turn into uncivilized in virtually the blink of an eye.
I just think its important to see the nonchalance of the culture that spawned it in light of some of the dehumanizing of people in the USA today.
School children being asked to question whether the Holocaust actually happened, the story of stuff which demonizes capitalism etc. At the adult end of the scale are people with national audiences suggesting that multiple conservative women should be raped or worse.
This is the logical consequence when you don’t teach history in school.
“This is the logical consequence when you don’t teach history in school.”
Well, this subject is not relevant to Common Core...
“School children being asked to question whether the Holocaust actually happened, “
In Germany, asking this would get you arrested and probably thrown in jail. It is actually illegal AFAIK to deny that the Holocaust happened there as I recall. I thought at one time that this was an outrageous affront to Western ideas of freedom. I am rethinking this position.
As kids we definitely fought the “Japs” (as they were universally known then)during our war games; the cry being “Bombs over Tokyo!” Ordinary Krauts not so much; instead, Hitler was the personification of Germany.
While I would never outlaw the question, its not a question that should be put to children. Its especially true in light of the general direction of education these days where they start with little anti capitalist cartoons and feed them a diet of hate for conservatives and wealth for 12 years.
When I was in high school we covered the Holocaust extensively with zero ambiguity because a couple of our male teachers were WWII vets and one was a Polish Jew with the scarred remains of a tattoo on his forearm.
You're absolutely right, and a little note to that effect should have accompanied your image.
To carry it a little further, some of those German kids who grew up in the Hitler Youth with "games" like that may well have gone on a few years later to participate in the later days of WWII and the Holocaust. In other words, their indoctrination into the perverse Nazi ideology assisted by childhood "games" like this encouraged them as teens and young adults to be murderers and war criminals, in many instances. So a light-hearted children's "game" can have very serious consequences.
I've read quite a lot of history especially 20th century and had never heard of the game.
It is vile - I'll say. I'll also say ‘ Thank you ‘ to Cripplecreek for the bit of historic information.
You can't compare the moral plane of American kids playing war games targeting Japs or Germans, on the one hand, and German kids playing "Get the Jews out," or whatever it translates into, on the other.
Japan's vicious sneak attack on Pearl Harbor killed about 2,500 Americans and forced the US to enter a war for its very survival. Before it was over, something like 440,000 American servicemen had been killed primarily by Japs and Germans, and many an American kid never got to see his father come home alive.
By contrast, not a single German Jew or other European Jew had killed massive numbers of Germans at the time that sicko anti-Semitic children's board game was invented. Jews were merely targeted for what was eventually mass murder by the Nazis' perverse ideology dreamed up and executed by an evil totalitarian regime.
BTW, as the child of a WWII vet, I don't think there's anything unbecoming to use the word "Jap" when discussing the history of WWII.
Very good post #36.
Looks like a drinking version of an Avalon Hill board wargame.
“When I was in high school we covered the Holocaust extensively with zero ambiguity because a couple of our male teachers were WWII vets and one was a Polish Jew with the scarred remains of a tattoo on his forearm.”
Well, these people are off the scene or are very old. What will happen when they are gone? There are idiots who don’t know or think that we landed on the moon, and that was 25 years later and on TV.
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