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Massive tunneling machine stuck under downtown Seattle, fix could cost taxpayers millions
Fox News / Politics ^ | May 8, 2014 | Dan Springer

Posted on 05/08/2014 5:57:18 PM PDT by Veto!

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You call this a surprise????

I lived near Seattle when replacement of the old viaduct was debated. It was CLEARLY going to end up this way…drilling a massive tunnel through landfill, if you can imagine, had no possibility of a good outcome. And still, the citizens voted for it. Made me wonder whether 80% of the people in Seattle were a) mental midgets, b) on the take, or c) just run-of-the-mill liberal idiots.

One young City Council member suggested knocking down the viaduct after widening the surface street below. Cheaper, faster, doable--naturally he was almost run out of town on a rail.

1 posted on 05/08/2014 5:57:18 PM PDT by Veto!
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If the state decides to get into this, innocent taxpayers in Eastern WA, where many conservatives live, will be expected to pony up for this stupid liberal scam. Big sigh.


2 posted on 05/08/2014 6:00:22 PM PDT by Veto! (OpInions freely dispensed as advice)
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Yeppers. Not much of surprise. The people of Seattle voted down the elevated monorail, which would have been much better than the light rail and trolleys they have now.


3 posted on 05/08/2014 6:02:26 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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Monorail? Didn't they have one of those in Shelbyville?

/johnny

4 posted on 05/08/2014 6:08:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Veto!

Probably should have just waited until they extended the high speed rail line from Southern California to them. Tunnels and elevated highways are so yesterday.


5 posted on 05/08/2014 6:11:01 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Progressives (communists) lie because their expectations and promises never match reality.)
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To: Veto!

I recall a memo put out by Boeing in the 1950s. “In case
of an atomic bomb attack, sit where you are. The front of
Seattle is land fill, so are we. There’s nowhere to hide”.
or words to that affect.


6 posted on 05/08/2014 6:13:24 PM PDT by tillacum
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The overriding philosophy in Seattle seems to be “Halt all traffic now.” If you ever drove thru Seattle at rush hour, you’ll remember the horrible frustration of traffic piling up at every single red light, at every single corner, while exhaust fumes poison the city.

This is intentional. No kidding. City Council voted to make driving in Seattle the most inefficient, unpleasant experience in the Western World, hoping people would stop driving into town — ever.


7 posted on 05/08/2014 6:14:43 PM PDT by Veto! (OpInions freely dispensed as advice)
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Just wait the liberals will probably tell you that you have to walk. That way there is no need for tunnels or streets. And it will cut down on childhood asthma. It's for the kids you know.
8 posted on 05/08/2014 6:15:15 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: Veto!

Why not just hire excavators and manual laborers to dig the old fashioned way?


9 posted on 05/08/2014 6:16:06 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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Has anyone tried jiggling it? Lefty loosey, righty tighty.


10 posted on 05/08/2014 6:20:07 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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It was a little surprising to read that it was a city well that brought Bertha to a grinding halt. It’s not like there’s no physical evidence of a well on the surface. Like big water pipes, electric poles, fencing, signs, that kind of stuff. Did the contractor not have someone walking the drill path? What happens now? Is Bertha to be buried in cement and call it a day?


11 posted on 05/08/2014 6:20:23 PM PDT by blueplum
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I used to live near Seattle in Kitsap county. The city of Bremerton spent a fortune to build a tunnel so cars exiting the ferry could drive underground 2 blocks leaving the area open to pedestrians. The city then kicked out the only businesses that were there (bars) and now it’s a dark, no-man’s land. Dumbest thing I’ve ever witnessed (except perhaps the condos the city built right before the market crash).


12 posted on 05/08/2014 6:20:55 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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They spent millions to conclude that they should spend the most money to use unproven technology. I don’t know if the announcement press conference is online, but their smug, self-satisfied press conference when they announced this plan was over the top.


13 posted on 05/08/2014 6:21:55 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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Seattle is land fill, so are we

And don't forget that Mt. Rainier, a nearby volcano, could take out the city and burbs. I used to live across the Sound on the high point of an island that would probably survive all quakes, tsunamis, and stupidities caused by libs. In a weird way, I sort of looked forward to having a front row seat for the next disaster.

14 posted on 05/08/2014 6:22:20 PM PDT by Veto! (OpInions freely dispensed as advice)
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I live there and they are liberal idiots. God help us taxpayers. Also, landfill is unstable and we do have earthquakes. What will happen to the tunnel when there is a big earthquake? I would certainly hate to be in the tunnel when that happens.


15 posted on 05/08/2014 6:22:59 PM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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To: Bogey78O

Why not? Because it might work, that’s why not. Liberalthink 101.


16 posted on 05/08/2014 6:23:46 PM PDT by Veto! (OpInions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Almost got a monorail in Springfield too.
17 posted on 05/08/2014 6:23:46 PM PDT by Cboldt
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Simpsons monorail song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZBPoRwog00


18 posted on 05/08/2014 6:24:39 PM PDT by Clay Moore ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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Seattle Monorail Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUoqeRADp4Q


19 posted on 05/08/2014 6:27:16 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Cboldt
No matter how obscure, freepers get it...

/johnny

20 posted on 05/08/2014 6:27:38 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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