"F%$@ing Nihilists..."
Posted on 04/27/2014 12:24:21 PM PDT by annalex
Great link and article
As a nationalist, I am hugely disappointed in the behavior of many European nationalists that supported Putin over the fellow nationalists in Ukraine. This article points to the irony of the modern use of the nationalist label and the obsession with calling various people Hitler. It also shows, I suspect, the Ukrainians' balanced view on themselves.
I posted something on this topic previously: Putin's Western Allies: Why Europe's Far Right Is on the Kremlin's Side
Is there a ping list for Nihlists? Oh wait, Everybody in FR gets that without asking.
I was thinking of creating a ping list for nihilists, but realized that it would be meaningless.
"F%$@ing Nihilists..."
Like the word “racist” in this country, “Fascist” in Europe generally means, “Somebody who doesn’t agree with me.”
Yet, it’s a very accurate assessment. There are contradictions and different reasons why these people on the extremes of politics slavishly follow the Putin line, but for the most part these misfits and nut jobs behind him are not conservatives in any traditional sense of the way that political philosophy has been understood.
Sixty years ago. George Orwell wrote that Europeans used the word “fascist” as an adjective to describe something unpleasant, e.g. “That fascist cook burned my toast again!”
Yeah, same as “racist” in America, 2014: “You said something on the subject of race that offended me!”
I can’t give an example because I don’t want another FR time-out for “Racism.” Yeah, even here.
In any event, words lose their meanings when they are misused long enough. Now when I hear someone being accused of `racism,’ I figure the accuser is either a race-baiter like Sharpton or the person being accused is directly over the target; SEE: `Islamaphobia’, `homophobia,’ `Cynthia McKinnaphobia’.
Democrats have been getting away with this for too long.
Yes, what is this confusion of terms, “Nationalist Socialist Workingmen’s party”, with “Fascism”?
Both are distinctly socialist schemes, the differences lie in who gets empowered following the scheme. Under National Socialism, apparently the trade union leadership is given at least nominal voice in the leadership councils of the regime, while Fascism pretty much restricts the boardroom to plutocrats, leaving little room for inclusion of the trade union leadership.
Of course, in the practical application of each of these schemes, nothing precludes the trade union leadership from also being plutocrats.
Much like the Students for a Democratic Society and the Weather Underground are differing philosophies (insofar as either has any viable philosophy). Mostly, non-conformity and violent action against the established order, just that one is more violent than the other.
Ukrainians sought independence during centuries of rule by the Russian and Austro-Hungarian empires as well as Poland, and seven decades as part of the Soviet Union. Subjugation under Poland lies at the heart of Ukraine's historic resentment against Poles. When Soviet Ukraine was overrun by the Nazis during World War II, the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists initially cooperated with Hitler's forces, hoping to shake off the Soviet regime — which had collectivized farms, engineered a devastating famine that killed millions and imprisoned or executed regime opponents in droves. When leaders of the group realized the Nazis had no plans for an independent Ukraine, the group and its military wing switched to fighting both Stalin's and Hitler's forces. Other Ukrainian military units, such as the SS Galician Division or the Ukrainian Self Defense Legion, remained loyal to the Nazis.That is about accurate. They were freedom fighters, and they lost in 1941-54. There were also many ethnic Russians who likewise joined the Wehrmacht to fight against bolshevism; by some accounts about 2 millions of them. Many, of course, were recruited from prisoner of war camps but many simply volunteered. In Central Europe this period was not as clear-cut as it seems to be 70 years ago from America. For both Ukrainians and Russians, the German-Soviet war was a continuation of the Civil War. As is, by the way, the confrontation in Eastern Ukraine.View galleryYevhen Kutsik, 86, former soldier of SS Galician Division, … Yevhen Kutsik, 86, former soldier of SS Galician Division, right, and a young Ukrainian nationalist … Veterans of the Galician see themselves as freedom fighters.
I hope not.
It’s worse than that. Fascism is altogether wholesome political theory of national unity and democracy by professional rather than territorial representation. In the 20’s and 30’s it was a reasonable alternative to the Komintern on the march. To associate that with militarism and expansionism of the German Nazis is plain stupid. It is likewise stupid not to see in Germany, however unattractive Nazism is, a force that liberated Western parts of the USSR and was met with flowers most everywhere.
Well, many are conservative in comparison to the liberalism of the EU. Jobbik, for example, would have been mainstream a couple of decades ago.
In case of Putin, he exploited the legitimate yearning that the Western conservatives have for a leader who is comfortable with religion and traditional values. They were simply fooled. Let us not forget that USSR was in many ways a deeply conservative country; it was a dictatorship of atheist conservatism. Plus, those people know mimicry, so it was easy for Putin to fool us.
Thank you.
The prime aim of the Stasi, according to documents found in the Gauck archives, which guard the communist secret police files, was to destabilise West Germany. In cities with large concentrations of guest workers – mainly Turkish and Italian immigrants – thousands of leaflets were circulated bearing the headline: “Germans defend yourselves!” Using phrases reminiscent of the Hitler era, the leaflets urged West Germans to drive foreigners out of their country. The leaflets, crafted by the Stasi, bore the signature German People’s Union – DVU – which is a real, far-right party with headquarters in Munich.By the 1970s the campaign was under the supervision of the spymaster Markus Wolf. It was decided – according to an anonymous Stasi major quoted by Welt am Sonntag – to take an active part in helping the paramilitary Hoffman Combat Sport Group, essentially an organisation of armed neo-Nazis. The East Germans encouraged members of the group to go for training with the Palestine Liberation Organisation in Lebanon. In 1982 one of the group killed a Jewish publisher, Schlomo Lewin, in the West German town of Erlangen. “In these groups we had a particularly dense network of informers,” the Stasi major said. “They ensured that the activities of the far Right were always pointed in the correct direction and never against East Germany.” Above all, the Stasi operations allowed East Germany to present itself as an “anti-fascist state,” morally superior to West Germany. - LINK
Today KGB Putin is simply continuing his support of anti-American and anti-western terrorist organizations all around the world. Putin has never denounced the KGB or repented or apologized for his loyal service to Soviet Communism. Vladolf Putler is quite simply the greatest mass-murderer and terrorist in the world today.
In order to gain the support of Russian fascists and nazis he lies to them and tells them that Russia is a great civilization with a glorious past and are destined to be rulers of the world. Hitler and Mussolini flattered their own people with such lies and in the end, they destroyed their own nations. Putin will end up the same way.
I haveaphobia wordaphobia misuseaphobia.
I wish he goes down before he brings the same level of devastation that Germany suffered, to his own country.
Needs to be repeated and it needs to be said that it is no sin to be fooled. We have all been there.
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