Posted on 04/27/2014 12:07:12 PM PDT by Kaslin
That’s a great poster — but:
1. Keynesian economists aren’t the only ones who use models — all quants do. In Keynes’ time nearly all economists used a few key indicators, and their particular economic theory to do analysis. The number of quants have increased with the increase in cheap computer power. Quants know little about any economic theory, or even economics (which is, fundamentally, a social science, regarding the behaviour of “economic man”), and plenty about making econometric models, with hundreds of variables.
2. Keynes was not a Keynesian, as we understand the term today. He specified a narrow set of circumstances (mainly involving a “liquidity trap”) that would justify government deficit spending. He also insisted that government debts should be repaid ASAP.
Their models CAN’T be wrong because they are liberal models. Liberals cannot be wrong and if their ideas don’t work it is just because they didn’t do them enough.
“Models, at best, can only give you a rough idea of future trends in economics.”
That’s because models only know how to walk on a runway and be way too skinny so the clothes they wear look a certain way. They are also sketchy at predicting very long weather traits (global warming) because they are so skinny they are cold all of the time.
They are, however, more accurate with their predictions than the computer models these jerks use.
Fed people are academic. Have no clue about real world and real people. Greenspan was asked about how the gov failed to react to the growing numbers of liar loans that help implode the financial system in 2008. He was shocked that businessmen would have such a short viewpoint of business and be willing to embark on short profits first and leave someone holding the bag down the road. Bernanke thinks one can go into debt in order to pay off debt, somehow one can fool people who possess money after the 2008 implosion into buying assets artificially propped up by printing money and debt. Both persons thinking go against what history has shown. Since ancient times, rulers were always advised to keep an eye on the business class. Failure to do so will result in businessmen cheating the people and worst corrupting officials. IAW we do not need more regulations but gov monitoring of business activity to make sure they follow laws. Finally more debt to deal with debt has destroyed many empires, republics and nations in the past. Somehow the Fed Reserve thinks they have a better handle then past great nations that failed. When one sits back one wonders is their something flawed in our academia, gov and the ruling 1 percent in our society to pursue such counter historical lessons, or is there something behind the scene that masks desperation.
At best, a model will only give you a range between which you can anticipate an outcome. And even then, it will still have an inherent level of inaccuracy. For a group (economists) that like to tout statistics, they sure seem to be lacking in understanding of the limitations of statistics.
Any questions?
I call that the $hit salad model. If we spread the $hit among the lettuce no one will notice when the sun comes out. Yea right. BTW they are doing it again.
Please never insult we science types be comparing any economist to us.
It is completely unexpected for us to normally use the word “unexpected”.
Can happen,, yes, but that is unexpected.
They’ll “discover” higher interest rates soon after the Republicans take over the Senate.
BINGO!!!
Clearly they haven't modeled a trade war with the tactics that China is using or they would have taken corrective action by now.
And none of their other models have that scenario modeled either.
The Fed's printing is not the problem. Let me put it in terms your 6 year old can understand.
Your 6 year old has a mom that turns out fresh cookies every couple of days. Your 6 year old knows a girl named Ching Chang has some brownies that your 6 year old wants.
Ching Change is willing to trade her brownies. But not for cookies. Ching Change wants the cookie factory. Ching Chang wants a claim on Mom.
Would your 6 year old make that trade? No way, would your 6 year old sell out her Mom for Ching Chang's brownies. But America is making that trade every day since we lowered the import tariffs.
We buy cheap imports and instead of insisting that the dollars are only exchangable for trade goods, we sell debt and equities. We are selling our factories and putting Mom in slavery.
But our money should be backed by GOLD.
Really? Shocked? Obama anti xL Keystone pipeline made sure the printing of money was going to be wasted into the little product markets.
When bartering there always is a residual credit as all barter are never equal. Money credit residual or remainders are thus created. They are a liability unless they can be fund raised into a church or big project, thus collected and revalued.
Yellen has no concept of what she is talking about or she is too afraid to blame Obama for creating a stockpile of pre credited residual credits and washing them off into mundane transactions without meaning which go into the consumed trash can.
So we spent 17 trillions for nothing but trinkets and this 17 trillion now will sit there used up and without any value. That means hyper inflation. Because even if the governemnt reraised taxes to pay their workers, there is no way in heck a salesman would agree to be paid by said government workers with this trashy cash.
So here we come price control which will worsen the inflation yet.
I agree with your scenario 100%.
Both of our parties, are selling Mom.
Both of them are. Very good scenario you illustrated with.
Someone, somewhere get with it. Please.
Soon.
We need to RESHORE (that is the term for returning jobs back to America). Some companies are doing it, because costs of doing business is rising overseas. Some companies are building Mexican factories and leaving China. Transportation costs are cheaper.
Any of us could have told her.
Yellen is what my dad used to call “educated beyond her capacity to learn.”
I get the feeling that Janet does not know what she is doing.
Mugabe was probably a little shocked at the performance of his models as well. Currency debasement is funny that way.
RE post 5: well, yeah.
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