Posted on 04/23/2014 10:05:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
And the caballo he rode in on.
Yes, let’s spend billions more of taxpayer money to build a wall over and under which the illegals flow like the Mighty Mississippi toward the Gulf. /s
Eff the freepin’ wall! What we need is landmines, handgrenades, and snipers. And, no, I ain’t even close to kiddin’.
I like the idea of landmines, though.
This is the bit everyone will miss about what he said:
Perry said, noting that that was especially the case when the United States has, in his opinion, essentially told Mexicans for 40 years, “come on over, its okay, don’t worry about breaking the law.”
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Agree, mylife. I caught that on the first read. Perry is not saying he embraces amnesty, but the blame for so many illegals in the US now lies with the failure of the Feds to enforce the Immigration Laws. ......Prez Ike showed it could be done when he deported 5 million in Operation Wetback.
April 4,2014:"U.S. federal agents have uncovered two drug-smuggling tunnels underneath the U.S.-Mexico border, both surfacing in San Diego-area warehouses and equipped with rail systems for moving contraband, officials said on Friday.
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Federal law enforcement officials said the first tunnel, which connects a warehouse in Tijuana, Mexico, with one in an industrial park in the border community of Otay Mesa, is about 600 yards long and is furnished with lighting, a crude rail system and wooden trusses.
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The second tunnel was even more sophisticated, built with a multi-tiered electric rail system and an array of ventilation equipment.
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The two tunnels are the sixth and seventh cross-border passageways discovered in the San Diego area in less than four years, according to the task force.
Since 2006, federal authorities have detected at least 80 cross-border smuggling tunnels, most of them in California and Arizona,"
During the 34 months from the beginning of the violence in September 2000 until the construction of the first continuous segment of the security fence at the end of July 2003, Samaria-based terrorists carried out 73 attacks in which 293 Israelis were killed and 1950 wounded. In the 11 months between the erection of the first segment at the beginning of August 2003 and the end of June 2004, only three attacks were successful, and all three occurred in the first half of 2003.
Since construction of the fence began, the number of attacks has declined by more than 90%. The number of Israelis murdered and wounded has decreased by more than 70% and 85%, respectively, after erection of the fence.
Even the Palestinian terrorists have addmitted the fence is a deterrent. On November 11, 2006, Islamic Jihad leader Abdallah Ramadan Shalah said on Al-Manar TV the terrorist organizations had every intention of continuing suicide bombing attacks, but that their timing and the possibility of implementing them from the West Bank depended on other factors. “For example,” he said, “there is the separation fence, which is an obstacle to the resistance, and if it were not there the situation would be entirely different.”
Then you should have read the article and you would. He is assistant chief of the Border Patrol's San Diego sector. And he knows far more about fencing and its effectiveness than you or I. He did not say fences would stop tunnels; no sane person would. What he did say was that the fences are effective...and they are.
Without fences criminals are free to walk, run or drive right over the border. And that is what we have now. I'm sure those opposed to such measures have their reasoning, whatever they may be. Myself, I would rather we spend the money on fencing instead of feeding, housing and educating the ILLEGAL hordes who are allowed to enter our country because we don't have them.
Great posts with lots of valuable information. Thanks for sharing.
Yes, some still mistakenly believe their ILLEGAL alien loving governor to be a Tea Party conservative even though he has endorsed Mitch McConnell, the man who has waged a war on the Tea Party.
They were relatively silent in this thread, though.
I wonder why. :-)
Mexicans get the government they vote for—and the government they’ll elect here once amnesty gives them enough voters to control our country.
272 miles of Israeli fence (440 mi. planned) versus nearly 2000 miles of U.S. fence is not a legitimate comparison. Besides the substantial difference in length, there is also a vast difference in terrain. The terrain affects not only how the fence is built but also how easily the illegals can dig under it.
As I said, eff the fence. Landmines, handgrenades, and snipers will work way better and cost way less. Shoot ‘em on sight. There’s your effective deterrent.
Yeah, I know. I figured he had dyed his hair and bought Ashley Banfield glasses for a reason.
Sheesh. No thanks.
Perhaps you should consult the OED as well.
I know plenty about fences and so does Henry’s former boss who says this about it.
“Building a physical fence along the entire border with Mexico was one of the dumbest ideas I heard when I was commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection. It is critical to recognize that fencing (even with barbed wire, electrification, and possibly a moat filled with alligators) is not a solution, it is only a tool. There’s a fundamental misunderstanding about what a physical barrier—even the triple-layer fencing in San Diego—actually does or doesn’t do for the agency charged with building fencing and securing the border. All it really does is buy you time where a crosser could otherwise quickly escape or assimilate. None of the fencing is impenetrable. People will eventually dig under it or cut through it or go over it, but it gives you enough time to respond and apprehend them. Some fencing makes sense tactically in areas selected by the Border Patrol, as where we deployed some 700 miles of it under my tenure, and in many of those areas it has been a tool to provide permanent impedance to deter and slow illegal entries on foot or by vehicle.
As we learned, fencing in poor soil, flood plains or sand dunes can also be more expensive than effective, in some places because of terrain challenges we decided spending more than $6 million per mile for specialized fence was not the most effective use of resources to better secure that area of border and opted for more agents and technology there instead. In areas dozens of miles from paved roads where we have time to respond to incursions or where we have natural obstacles of mountains and water that already slow, deter or reroute traffic we don’t need fence at all. Any successful strategy must rely more heavily on highly trained, dedicated law enforcement officers and better technology tools, key components of the approach we began in the last administration. Since 2001, we have more than doubled the Border Patrol, deployed highly capable manned aircraft and Unmanned Aerial Systems including the Predator aircraft, and installed fixed and mobile surveillance systems. And, the Department of Homeland Security is in the process of developing its plans to deploy additional technology capabilities along key areas of the border to enhance the effectiveness of these agents.
That strategy is working more than a fence alone would, the volume of illegal crossings on the Southwest border is down dramatically from a peak 1.6 million apprehensions in fiscal year 2000 to only about 350,000 apprehensions in 2011. While the threat of violence by drug organizations is real, average violent crime rates in cities along the U.S.-Mexico border are lower than in comparable cities elsewhere in the U.S. Despite the drug violence that has claimed thousands of lives in its sister city to the south, Ciudad Juárez, El Paso recorded only 5 murders in 2010.
As debate continues about how to best ensure our national security it is important to identify the real threats and develop realistic solutions. In the face of constrained budgets, spending billions on unnecessary fences is not viable. If the symbol of the fence in political campaigns keeps us talking about remaining border security challenges and new and creative approaches that will build on the progress to date then it’s not all bad. But if it deceives the public into believing in 2,000 miles of wall as a magic solution to the hard problems of three decades of uncontrolled immigration, the only thing being fenced is our common sense.”
My opposition to building a fence along the entire 2000-mile border has bupkis to do with Rick Perry. I was against it long before he stepped onto the national stage.
“Grow up!”
That does it. I’m unfriending AND unfollowing you. And if you still don’t straighten up, I’m gonna leave negative feedback.
Lighten up, Francis. You’re wound way too tight about this whole Rick-Perry-and-his-Perrywinkles-are-the-Devil campaign.
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