Posted on 04/16/2014 9:08:34 PM PDT by dangus
I agree. I withdrew my comment in post 56, but should have addressed the comment to you. That is what I get for posting in the middle of the night.
Which nation isn’t Christian?
Number of abortions per 10,000, Russia, 2008: 87
Number of abortions per 10,000, Russia, 2013: 57
Number of abortions per 10,000, New York, 2009: 300
Number of abortions per 10,000, Texas, 2009: 150
Number of abortions per 10,000, Florida, 2009: 240
Where did you get the figures for the American abortion statistics?
I hope you realize that RIA Novoski took the lazy way out, and basically divided the total number of abortions in 2008 (1,250,000) and divided it by the total population of Russia. (150,000,000) and then multiplied it by 10,000 to get their ratio.
American statistics tend to count only women in a certain age group.
Just another quick note, according to Guttmacher and Russian official statistics in 2013 (which I would actually take with a healthy grain of salt) both countries have seen reduced abortions with both countries at roughly 1.06 million abortions per year.
Of course, Russia also has half the population that America does. Despite professing to be more Christian, they still can’t help aborting at double the rate we do. Neither is Putin very eager to ban abortion entirely it seems, despite the fact that his professed religion calls for it.
What percentage of Russia’s population is Muslim, and at what rate is their population increasing compared to non-Muslims?
You’re counting the number of abortions per 10,000 people, not per 10,000 adult women 18-49. And still relying on 2008 data. So you can roughly quadruple your data.
Now, considering the whole issue is that Putin is siding with the re-establishment of Christian Russia, using old data is using totally irrelevant data.
So 160 vs 57 would be the real comparison.
On the other hand, the American abortion statistics that you posted are per 10,000 women of reproductive age, which means it's obviously going to be higher. I used 2008 Guttmacher and Russian statistics for a fair comparison with the Russian measure.
I also noted that total abortions in 2013 in both Russia and the United States are roughly the same in number, again according to Guttmacher and the Russian government.
Given that Russia has half the total population we do, it doesn't really make sense that we could have more abortions than they would, even if you don't want to do the math.
>> I also noted that total abortions in 2013 in both Russia and the United States are roughly the same in number, again according to Guttmacher and the Russian government. <<
You might have claimed that, but you’re wrong.
Russia had 885,000 abortions in 2013.
The United States had 1.3 million.
I don’t know where you got your Russia stats, but your American states leave out the states which don’t report abortions, which happen to be the ones which performed the most abortions, like California.
Actually, I thought you were claiming 1.06 million in the US. I now see you previously stated 1.2 million. That might approximate the real number, if AGI believes that California and the other non-reporting states saw the number of abortions drop as dramatically as other states (although I’d question that logic.)
There are a lot of Muslim 'migrant workers' who travel long distances to Russian metros who are viewed and treated a lot like the illegal immigrants here. They provide low wage labor in many of the cities, which occasionally generates some newsworthy drama.
So Israel doesn’t antagonize Russia while Russia continues to help Iran. Something is missing there.
RIA Novosti has been owned by the government since December. US media is bad enough, but imagine it being owned by the federal government?
I do have an aversion to cold though.
Learning a new language can be a bear, though, even for folks with exposure to it during childhood through doting grandparents.
The salary plunge is also a killer, which is why Russians generally migrate West, whereas very few Westerners head to Russia who aren’t Edward Snowden or affiliated with BP or Chevron.
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