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Community Suggests Gun Possession Is Illegal For Residents
newschannel5.com ^ | 3/21/2014 | Unknown

Posted on 03/22/2014 10:06:46 AM PDT by rktman

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To: rktman

Maybe this will convince the residents that they should actually show up and VOTE. So many people ignore their HOA entirely, and then complain when the elected members do stupid things. Just like any government, you need to get politically involved. Find candidates who support your views, or be a candidate, and then go out and vote, and encourage others to vote, for the good candidates.

When my HOA was doing stupid things, I showed up and put my name in, and had enough people who were riled up to get on the board, and we fixed it.


61 posted on 03/22/2014 11:46:36 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: rktman

I was president of a HOA for 3 years (then the coma broke). The HOA can’t enforce this because it doesn’t deal with boundaries or behavior outside the home. The residents can ignore it. If the HOA wants to try to enforce it, well...good luck with that. First, the HOA has to establish the clause is reasonable; second they have to establish the fact (impossible since they aren’t eligible to obtain a search warrant); third, they have to go to court and that costs money; fourth, the Bill of Rights advocacy groups and the NRA will jump at the chance.


62 posted on 03/22/2014 11:52:47 AM PDT by Repulican Donkey
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To: rktman
From the article:

"Neighbors said they understand the gun rule is meant to keep criminals out of Nashboro Village . . ."

Of course. Criminals wouldn't want to break a Homeowners' Association Rule.

63 posted on 03/22/2014 12:05:23 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: Pontiac

You covered nothing....

They could not enforce this even if they tried...

Like your government, it’s a sad joke.


64 posted on 03/22/2014 12:07:28 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Jack Hammer
This happened in Tennessee?

Nashville is quite liberal. I believe they've called themselves the Athens of the South for a long time.

65 posted on 03/22/2014 12:08:10 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: rktman

Federal, State, County, City law and the Constitution all preempt what an HOA can do. For instance, HOA’s can not prevent satellite dishes from being installed since Federal law prohibited HOAS from doing that. HOA’s can’t deny free speech, either. Nor 2nd Amendment rights either. Residents should just ignore illegal rules and if the HOA takes action, sue the shit out of them.

But you’re right, HOA’s tend to be run by little nazi-wannabes, and personally I would never live in such a regulated community.


66 posted on 03/22/2014 12:29:33 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

Yup. Had our house been involved in an actual full blown hoa, we wouldn’t be here. Just mow the medians ($62/qtr?!) and we don’t even live in the main subdivision. Could be worse. LOL! No it couldn’t cause we wouldn’t be here. Neighbor got a couple of junk cars in the yard? I wouldn’t particularly care if they did.


67 posted on 03/22/2014 12:32:48 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: Gaffer

Patently illegal. They can ban shooting but not ownership. Ignore.


Yep. It’s called an “unenforceable” clause. You can sign a contract saying that if you fail to make the payments that the loaner can take one of your children. But they can’t. It’s an unenforceable clause.

Same thing here.


68 posted on 03/22/2014 12:33:36 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: rktman

HOA have no authority for inside the home. That’s been settled law. They also have limited authority to the look and upkeep outside the home and for common property. They have no authority past that.


69 posted on 03/22/2014 12:38:49 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: Pontiac

“By purchasing the house the owner agrees to the restrictions placed on the property by the HOA. “

“No black people, Jews, or Conservatives”? Can they enforce that?


70 posted on 03/22/2014 12:40:33 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: rktman
"Neighbor got a couple of junk cars in the yard? I wouldn’t particularly care if they did.

My property is not in an HOA but my late wife was always complaining and threatening to call the County about the neighbors who usually failed to mow their lawn most of the summer, kept junk cars that they were "working on" in the yard, and just generally kept an unkempt property. As our property sits well off the main road and is completely surrounded by a solid line of cedar trees, our house and yard can't be seen by anyone outside the tree/property line. This means, as well, we couldn't see the neighbors' yards either, but it bothered the heck out of my wife when she would drive down the driveway, before turning onto the main part of our property, that she would be able to see the neighbors' yards.

I told her to forget about making any complaints about it to the County. In my opinion, the more trashy the neighbors' yards looked the better. Anyone cruising the road to look for likely places to rob couldn't see our house from the road anyway and, with such poor-white-trashy neighbors being visible, they wouldn't even suspect that there was something worthwhile behind the treeline.

The neighbors knew well enough to stay away from our property, so we never actually had any problem with them. Use the natural community camouflage, I say.

71 posted on 03/22/2014 12:44:46 PM PDT by BlueLancer (Pachebel --- The original one-hit wonder.)
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To: BlueLancer

LOL! My wife used to complain about our back yard neighbors when we were still in FL. Could just barely make out the house due to the “jungle” behind our fence. Of course anything that grew over the property line was cut and tossed back over the fence. Made a little extra work for me but not that big a deal.


72 posted on 03/22/2014 12:51:01 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: CodeToad

Read post #29


73 posted on 03/22/2014 1:25:56 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: dragnet2
What if your stinking controlling Home Owners Ass's said no Blacks, no Jews, and wheel chairs not allowed, and anyone who owns a kitchen knife is banned?
Had that in CA, no blacks allowed. Saw it on the deed; also saw that it is not enforceable.
74 posted on 03/22/2014 1:31:43 PM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: rktman
It probably requires a vote with a very high percentage of homeowners agreeing to dissolve.
75 posted on 03/22/2014 2:27:06 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Azeem

You cannot sign away rights in a contract.


You are amazingly wrong.


76 posted on 03/22/2014 4:23:08 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("Income Inequality?" Let's start with Washington DC vs. the rest of the nation!)
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To: Starstruck

If SCOTUS has ruled that cities don’t have the right to ban guns under the 2nd amendment do you think HOAs have that right?


Yes, because HOAs (under the ownership of the original developer who created the restrictions) are privately owned. Cities aren’t.


77 posted on 03/22/2014 4:24:45 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("Income Inequality?" Let's start with Washington DC vs. the rest of the nation!)
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To: Starstruck

I didn’t sign anything so my HOA is really weak.


Um, you signed the check to buy there. You bought into the restrictions, whether or not you read them.


78 posted on 03/22/2014 4:25:45 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("Income Inequality?" Let's start with Washington DC vs. the rest of the nation!)
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To: precisionshootist

Homeowners Associations are absolutely unconstitutional in every way shape or form.


You don’t believe in private property rights, and the right of an owner to put restrictions on his OWN property in order to make it attractive to (some) buyers?


79 posted on 03/22/2014 4:27:03 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("Income Inequality?" Let's start with Washington DC vs. the rest of the nation!)
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To: precisionshootist

Obamacare will fine you if you don’t buy it’s product,or one like it.

No one is fined for not buying a condo. It’s all about choice. I live in a condo and am okay with the rules because of the freedom I now have after almost 50 years of home ownership.

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80 posted on 03/22/2014 4:45:10 PM PDT by Mears
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