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5 reasons to consider a no-strings-attached, basic income for all Americans
Salon ^ | March 19, 2014 | Lynn Stuart Parramore

Posted on 03/20/2014 2:14:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And what will they buy?


81 posted on 03/20/2014 6:01:40 AM PDT by MissNomer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This will make your hair curl.

Not a new idea at all. I am old enough to remember it being proposed by Richard Nixon. (Yes, the GOP was NEVER Conservative until Reagan dragged them there kicking and screaming).

About all I can say for it is that it would likely be cheaper than running 157 contiguous and overlapping welfare programs.


82 posted on 03/20/2014 6:11:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: abb
Money for Nuthin' and Your Chicks for Free!!!


83 posted on 03/20/2014 6:17:47 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The stupid..it burns.


84 posted on 03/20/2014 6:20:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: exDemMom

“Money handed to people with no strings attached is worth exactly as much as the effort they put into earning that money. In other words, it’s worthless.”
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Amazing how so many fail to understand such a simple and obvious truth.

My respect for Ayn Rand grows every day. Fifty years ago I read in Atlas Shrugged that Americans were the first to use the term “to make money” rather than “to get money” because Americans used to realize that money is actually MADE by the act of working to acquire it. The coin, cash, check or digital entry is merely a way of keeping track of how much money you have actually MADE. Handing it from one hand to another with no requirement for work does not MAKE any money.

I have actually spoken with people who seemed to believe that the government can take care of everyone’s need without anyone having to work unless they, “just want to”.


85 posted on 03/20/2014 6:21:59 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: BobL

You know, if we just had LAWS against drugs, prostitution and other vices, the poor would be able to spend their money wisely!

;-0


86 posted on 03/20/2014 6:23:26 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Radix
Just who exactly would be inclined to produce anything in such a system?

You?

Well, sure. Actually people would have more incentive than under welfare system, where working and earning reduces what you get. If people worked and made money for extra stuff beyond their bare living expenses they wouldn't be punished for it. A lot of people who are working now could get by working 20 or 30 hours a week, but work 40 or more because they want to live better and save money.

87 posted on 03/20/2014 6:23:56 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: Hugin

You sound like a democrat.


88 posted on 03/20/2014 6:25:22 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: RipSawyer

I’m not supporting the idea. I’m comparing it to what we have now, which is worse in some ways, not a theoretical ideal. But if you read my earlier comment, I don’t think it would ever happen, precisely because the “no strings attached” idea goes against the fundamental nature of government.


89 posted on 03/20/2014 6:32:40 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Anyone buying into this nonsense would probably also help elect Obama for a third term.


90 posted on 03/20/2014 6:40:44 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: muir_redwoods

The rate food is going up even with some spoilage it might be a better investment.


91 posted on 03/20/2014 6:48:44 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
As one who's been married 25+ years and raised 3 kids, I offer three simple words to debunk this hare-brained notion:

It's never enough.

I still laugh at my oldest son, now 25, who was pleading with his mom to purchase him a particular toy 15+ years ago: "if you buy this for me, I'll never be bored again!"

LOL times 50!

92 posted on 03/20/2014 6:59:45 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: freedomfiter2

The technical term is corporatism.

But as with all systems that are at base, socialist, you run out of other peoples money after a while. Whether it is welfare to the top or the bottom.


93 posted on 03/20/2014 7:04:41 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bravo, somebody needed to say that and you said it well!

For a long time I have felt that with all the new communications technology there is less and less communication of anything worthwhile.


94 posted on 03/20/2014 7:50:22 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A built in bias of laziness.


95 posted on 03/20/2014 7:51:09 AM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: muir_redwoods

It’s simple. We’ll be the Eloi and China the Morlocks.


96 posted on 03/20/2014 11:15:18 AM PDT by pluvmantelo (Sure would be nice if the same articles weren't posted multiple times)
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To: IMR 4350
You could get someone to clean your house for example but you would have to pay in food or something else with actual value.

Why not use silver as a means and facilitator of trade?

97 posted on 03/20/2014 1:40:12 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee

Anything of value, but paper money wouldn’t have value.

Why would anyone want to accumulate wealth based on paper money after it’s already been devalued once and with prices going up because everyone is now receiving a check for doing nothing, you would soon have to increase the amount of the check everyone was receiving just so they could live.

Once you decrease the value of the money to the point it wipes out accumulated wealth you’ve got runaway inflation.

Paper money becomes worthless.

People would be glad to work just for food.


98 posted on 03/20/2014 3:27:41 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Communists don’t read history because they think they already know how it comes out. And instead of learning the hard way they just look for a scapegoat and try again. That is why it’s a religion.


99 posted on 03/20/2014 3:41:10 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Eliminate all welfare and if you don’t make your own way in this world quit consuming oxygen!


100 posted on 03/20/2014 3:44:13 PM PDT by dalereed
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