Couple of you clowns might want to try talking "Pussy Riot" into doing their little shtick in one of the larger mosques in our good ally Saudi Arabia, and see what happens...
Posted on 03/18/2014 9:10:05 PM PDT by varmintman
On February 21, 2012, five members of the group staged a performance in Moscow's Cathedral of Christ the Savior. Their actions were stopped by church security officials. By that evening, they had turned the performance into a music video entitled "Punk Prayer - Mother of God, Chase Putin Away!" The women said their protest was directed at the Orthodox Church leader's support for Putin during his election campaign.
There are an estimated 11 members of Pussy Riot. They represent no threat to Putin or Russia. It is not a matter as to whether I approve of their actions or not. They have suffered disproportionate harsh treatment for exercising free speech whether on the street or elsewhere. Two of them served 21 months in prison for their "crimes."
But let's be clear. Putin has meted out harsh treatment to those who criticize him. The Human Rights Report details some of those abuses that go far beyond Pussy Riot.
Yeah RT is a reliable source. I watch RT daily and they spout the same kind of propaganda you are. You can defend the corrupt former President all you want. The Ukraine has been plagued by corrupt political leaders ever since its independence from the Soviet empire. However, that in no way justifies a Russian invasion and annexation of part of the Ukraine.
Some will argue whether it is "post-Communist" or not. Putin has been in power for 14 years with another 6 to go.
From thge State Deparetment 2012 Human Rights Report on Russia:
"Other problems reported during the year included: allegations of torture and excessive force by law enforcement officials; life-threatening prison conditions; interference in the judiciary and the right to a fair trial; abridgement of the right to privacy; restrictions on minority religions; widespread corruption; societal and official intimidation of civil society and labor activists; limitations on the rights of workers; trafficking in persons; attacks on migrants and select religious and ethnic minorities;
There were several reports that the government or its agents committed arbitrary or unlawful killings. In the North Caucasus, numerous extrajudicial killings were carried out by both authorities and local militants.
Violence continued in the North Caucasus republics, driven by separatism, interethnic conflict, jihadist movements, vendettas, criminality, and excesses by security forces. Dagestan continued to be the most violent area in the North Caucasus. General levels of violence decreased in the North Caucasus by almost 10 percent in 2012 compared with 2011. Online newspaper Caucasian Knot reported significant drops in casualty rates in Chechnya and Kabardino-Balkaria in the third and fourth quarters of 2012 .
Killings: Caucasian Knot reported there were at least 690 deaths during the year, compared with 750 in 2011. One journalist was killed in the North Caucasus region during the year.
"There continued to be reports that security forces used indiscriminate force resulting in numerous deaths and that the perpetrators were not prosecuted."
If Russia was still ruled by the Communists, the situation in Ukraine would have been a bloodbath.
It is not over. There is much more to come.
LL could be batshit crazy on every other topic under the sun, but his assessment of what would happen in any sort of a nuclear first-strike action (which YOU were recommending) is straight on. Don’t be calling for first strikes and calling other people “crazy”...
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http://www.tomatobubble.com/pussyriot.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/08/08/the-pussy-riot-flap/
You open the history book under 'G' for "groupies", and you go through the list of guys who've ever inspired groupie or fan phenomena, and you can at least understand most of it: Genghis Khan, Von Richtofen, Roberto Duran, Mick Jagger...
Anybody can understand a teenage girl or young woman going through some sort of a Mick Jagger groupie phase.
But wanting to be a George Soros groupie??? I mean, I'm sorry, that one leaves me cold, I could come closer to understanding being a Richard Nixon groupie....
Couple of you clowns might want to try talking "Pussy Riot" into doing their little shtick in one of the larger mosques in our good ally Saudi Arabia, and see what happens...
A. Whatever happens to the freaks in Pussy Riot is of no conseqence to me whatsoever.
B. I am concerned about the human rights and Constitution violations that are increasing pedal to the metal in the USA, and the commie/moslem/faggot/racist/thug who is illegally in the WH and vigorously destroying our country along with all the Dems, with the Rs acting for the most part, as passive enablers.
What happens in Russia and Ukraine is their business.
What happens in my country is my business and if We the People don’t do something soon, we’re going to have a replay of Stalinist type slaughter and repression in the future.
“Yep, I believe pretty soon they will be running the JAG offices.”
They have been doing that since about 2 years into Obozo’s first term.
Can you even think of a conservative graduated from law school in the past two decades.
Most if not all are soul mates of Herr Obozo and Holder.
Pfft. The Brits are mostly an enemy. Its one of the most left wing nuthouses in Europe. Time to move on from these antiquated ideas that Thatcher is still in charge. She’s not, and the country is a satellite EU state full of feral youths, muztard terrorists, and pedophiles/queers.
Their biggest problem is that they are anti-Putin.
The bad manners you’re showing here don’t contribute to the discussion or to winning your point. I suggest you lay off the “bootlicker” slurs.
Really? Would you have said the same thing about Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia? Do you really think we can put our head in the sand and ignore what is going on around us? Did it matter when Saddam Hussein took over Kuwait? Should we continue to provide the nuclear umbrella for Japan and South Korea? Does it matter if China decides to annex Taiwan?
“What happens in Russia and Ukraine is their business.”
No sane person is advocating war with Russia. But it is our business and we can apply economic sanctions and isolate them from the G8.
What the isolationist zombies never fully understand is that those policies got us bombed at Pearl Harbor and into war with Japan and Germany....and it got New York City bombed by the Islamo Facists.
The West is toast and the Russian model is no answer.
The West has surpassed the Soviets/Russians in every category, rendering the Soviets in the ash heap of history.
This is part of the last gasps of the Russian Empire. It too will die a slow death. Just give it time and the bread lines will be back.
The situation with Ukraine is not on the level of the situations you both cite.
Secondly, and this is vital, the current administration in our country is headed by an enemy combatant and everyone hired or appointed by this enemy combatant is similarly an enemy of Constitution and all that is good in America.
I don’t want them acting on the international stage becuase all that will happen is moslems and communists and dictators will be supported, as happened already in the so-called “Arab spring”.
You use the word “we”. Do you mean American citizens? Or the fedgov?
The fedgov at this point is so removed from representing my interests, or the interests of any sane or moral American, that they are much more dangerous to the interests of the USA than any other foreign country.
“Greater Russia means enfolding traditionally Russian territories in the Kremlin’s embrace. Putin want less to restore the Soviet Union than Czarist Russia. I suspect he hates Communism as much he hates the West.”
Only one slight observation, he doesnt hate the West. In fact, when he was elected president in 2000, he led a rather pro-western politics; he ws the first leader who called G.Bush after the September 11 attack, he collaborated with the US in 2001, to ease the transport of troops and ordinance to northen Afghanistan ... etc.
What he got in return? NATO poking at his ribs..
BTW, Russia announced that will give Crimea $4 billion in the new Russian budget, according to Vladimir Osakovskiy, chief economist for Russia and the Commonwealth of Independent States at Bank of America Corp. in Moscow. They have already advanced $405 million to Crimea for current needs.
That amount includes $2 billion to replace funds from Ukraine’s budget and raise wages and pensions to the Russian level (which means about 100% increase, compared with Ukrainian pensions and wages), as well as much as $1.5 billion to $2 billion for infrastructure upgrades, Osakovskiy said .
Do you think the situation is static? Hitler established the precedent that he had the right to protect German ethnic minorities in the Sudetenland. Will Putin stop at the Crimea or will he expand his annexation further into Ukraine using other pretexts? Is Estonia next with its 40% ethnic Russian population? Or Moldova? Do we ever establish a red line?
Secondly, and this is vital, the current administration in our country is headed by an enemy combatant and everyone hired or appointed by this enemy combatant is similarly an enemy of Constitution and all that is good in America.
You can describe Obama and his administration as "enemy combatants," but they are duly elected by the people. Are you advocating the violent overthrow of the current administration since they are the "enemy?" If so, count me out.
The fedgov at this point is so removed from representing my interests, or the interests of any sane or moral American, that they are much more dangerous to the interests of the USA than any other foreign country.
What do you propose we do about it?
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