Posted on 03/17/2014 8:17:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Where’s the debris?
Any air defense unit that shot the plane down would get a lot of grief. However, I think it’s unlikely the Chinese shot it down, given that we’d know about it, since Uncle Sam keeps pretty close tabs on Chinese military installations and units.
RE: Where’s the debris?
Cleaned up by the Chicoms?
I don’t know why Charlie Martins blog crap theories deserve to be posted outside the blogger forum just because they’re on a higher-grade blog site.
BS and speculation from a diet and exercise writer.
I don’t know why Charlie Martins blog crap theories deserve to be posted outside the blogger forum just because they’re on a higher-grade blog site.
BS and speculation from a diet and exercise writer.
The red line is a plot of points equidistant from the satellite. Since there’s only one bird that connected, that’s all they can know - somewhere around that circle.
I think the most likely air defense unit that would shoot it down is Malaysia’s. They should have scrambled, but they claim they didn’t.
What if the pilot and/or copilot was carrying out a subtle act of terrorism against China in support of the Uighurs? Subtle implying disappearance, no buildings destroyed, no shouts of "Allah akbar!" Disappearance to the Indian Ocean to make the search area larger.
Still terrorism -- 2/3 of the passengers were Chinese so this would make ruling-class Chinese have second thoughts about travel. But not open enough terrorism to provoke Beijing into a major response against the Uighur population. In effect Beijing has Uighur hostages.
Evidence? What place does evidence have on a conspiracy thread?
1. If they blew the cockpit door off that resulted in cabin decompression that eventually lead to a dead crew and passangers, then the hijackers would have been seriously pre-occupied and likely didn’t have time to turn all the transponders off.
2. The search planes should be equipped with a dummy Cell Phone tower equipment and go around looking for roaming cells.
3. Is it at all possible that the actual black boxes on the plane were disabled prior to takeoff?
It seems as if Charlie forgot to take this statement of his into consideration re his theory along with the fact that over 100 of those onboard were Chinese citizens.
The US does an incredible amount of signals intelligence on China. Even if the discussions between the ground controllers and aricraft were encrypted rather than transmitted in the clear there would be a noticable spike in them and out sigint satellites would be able to determine the location.
Analysis pointing circumstantially to a shootdown scenario wouldn’t be too difficult. Once the Crays in the basement of Ft Meade got to work on the encryption (and we’re probably not talking about that difficult encryption to break here) the analysis would soon point to probable ...
Seems very plausible to me. Countries in general do not like rogue, unidentified aircraft cruising through their airspace.
India also a likely suspect to shoot it down, as they would have suspected Pakistanis with trying to target them.
If that happened, and most of the casualties were ChiCom, it would create a potentially serious situation in the region. And hence much incentive for a cover-up.
The one common characteristic of post-Cold War military budgets in the region is they have nose-dived even more than in Europe. These guys have zero readiness. Given how bad people are about paperwork there, I expect most unidentified aircraft are simply noted down in a log. And justifiably so. It's not as if there's any impending war on the horizon. North Korea's the only country in East Asia that might shoot down an unidentified aircraft.
Another possibility, of course, is that the plane was brought down during an air defense exercise, as occurred in Ukraine back in 2001. In that event, a cover-up would be understandable, no matter which military was involved - it's a major black eye. The problem with this hypothesis (and any hypothesis about military involvement) is that sigint, satellite recon or other intel from one of the big 3 (US, China or Russia) would presumably have noted the missile launch. The cause of the 2001 incident came to light after Uncle Sam said it was the result of a Ukrainian SAM launch.
The comment about reduced military budgets relate all countries in the region with the exception of China, which has seen its budget skyrocket along with its GDP, such that the present number is about $160b.
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Any air defense unit that shot the plane down would get a lot of grief.
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I would think that after 9/11, while it would be tragic, the shooting down of an unidentified, non-responding aircraft would certainly be understandable.
A year after 9/11, sure. 13 years after 9/11, in an environment where unidentified aircraft are the rule rather than the exception, because of an aversion to paperwork combined with glacial bureaucratic processes even if the paperwork is filed?
I’m curious to know if a pilot can do anything which would cause the passenger cabin to lose oxygen. Doing that would prevent the passengers from trying to re-take the jet.
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