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Sweet success for bio-battery
Chemistry World ^ | Katia Moskvitch | 28 January 2014

Posted on 03/03/2014 9:55:59 PM PST by neverdem

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To: DB

Good point. Though....

...lithium is about half the density of water.

Assuming that the sugar is in a water solution (don’t know for sure), that means that the same size sugar battery would contain 5 times the energy of lithium ion.


21 posted on 03/04/2014 1:10:32 AM PST by aquila48
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To: neverdem
with water and carbon dioxide the only by-product

CO2?? Aaaah! They're going to kill the planet!! /s

22 posted on 03/04/2014 2:04:20 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: Grimmy

It might operate like a lead-acid battery. One electrode is connected to the implantee’s butt...where the lead is located; and the other to his gut, where the acid is produced. It’s elementary, Watson.


23 posted on 03/04/2014 3:47:11 AM PST by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and in politic)
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I just hope it doesn’t attract ants....


24 posted on 03/04/2014 4:30:43 AM PST by CharlotteVRWC
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To: Grimmy

I wonder how far away we are from bio implanted computers that can run off of the implanted person’s metabolism?


I used to work for a large cell phone company. They were talking of that several years ago. Don’t know what came of it.


25 posted on 03/04/2014 4:35:39 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: neverdem

To recharge your phone you just slide these pre-formed sugar sticks in the hole in the side of your phone and, presto, full charge. ;)


26 posted on 03/04/2014 4:36:38 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

If only they could design one to work off body fat I’d never have to buy another battery.


27 posted on 03/04/2014 4:50:42 AM PST by oldasrocks (They should lock all of you up and only let out us properly medicated people.)
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To: aquila48
"HUH? Supposedly the sugar battery has an energy storage density of 10 times that of lithium ion, but it could only last twice as long?? I must say after reading that my confidence level for the rest of the article was in bad need of recharging."

Especially after the author called 'amp-hours' the 'energy storage density'. Without knowing the voltage, amp-hours is doesn't tell you anything about energy. In fact, it doesn't tell you much about anything.

28 posted on 03/04/2014 5:38:30 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: catnipman

Reading about magic batteries is almost as fun as reading about perpetual motion machines.


29 posted on 03/04/2014 5:48:04 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: neverdem
The battery ... can convert all the potential chemical energy stored in a sugar into electricity.

There is no known process that is 100% efficient.

30 posted on 03/04/2014 6:00:18 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: DB
Getting rid of water with a phone seems like a problem.

Not if it's water vapor. Although temperature conditions might seem to be an issue. Condensation, freezing and all that.

31 posted on 03/04/2014 6:02:56 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: neverdem

Environmentalists will want it banned.


32 posted on 03/04/2014 6:17:21 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: aquila48
UH? Supposedly the sugar battery has an energy storage density of 10 times that of lithium ion, but it could only last twice as long??

One order of magnitude...in the binary system = 2. Et voilà!

33 posted on 03/04/2014 8:42:38 AM PST by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: Boiler Plate

Biological process based fuel cell-runs as long as you feed it. Combine with self mobility and behavior to forage for sustenance, could become autonomous. Add intelligence and ability to duplicate or self repair and achieve “Replicators”. Piss them off...


34 posted on 03/04/2014 2:43:47 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: norwaypinesavage

Good point - I missed that.

It’s sad that a supposedly Science site is so science illiterate. Seems that science like everything else has gotten so PC, that they’ll sacrifice accuracy for the green agenda.


35 posted on 03/05/2014 12:02:22 AM PST by aquila48
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To: Ozark Tom

Once again sci/fi starts to become reality.


36 posted on 03/05/2014 1:40:12 AM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: neverdem

A new twist on “putting sugar in the gas tank.”


37 posted on 03/05/2014 1:43:08 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Certainly sounds like an engineering groaner. They might be plucking random factoids from different experiments in the same general family.

I’d think the kicker is, yes, voltage. It’s probably millivolts from the sugar, versus many volts from inorganic chemistry. Therefore more cells are needed, and the provision for that will eat up some of your capacity.


38 posted on 03/05/2014 1:47:10 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: neverdem

Bump for later.


39 posted on 03/14/2014 7:27:09 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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