‘Russian forces in Ukraine could be a stabilizing factor in a country with no legitimate govt’

Russia [Propaganda] Today ^ | March 1, 2014

[Hot Tabasco]

If you call that “Armed insurgents” then your welcome to spin away.

As I stated previously, an "armed insurgency" is what it is regardless of the choice of weapons.........

Here's a couple videos of the peaceful, unarmed protestors........

Peaceful protestors attempt to make friends with police

Peaceful, unarmed protestors attempt to encourage dialogue

So who's really trying to do the spin here bro?

[JimRed]

Who says it does not have a legitimate government. It seems to me it is only missing the Prime Minister who fled the country. Near as I can tell everything else is in place.

Right, and the Parliament was working on stabilizing the situation last I heard.

[swamprebel]

If your government called out Military snippers to shoot you down in the streets, because you had an opposing view, bet you’d defend yourself too. Protestore in the Maidan SQ. are nothing NEW, they have been there for months protesting, what was NEW was Moscow telling it’s puppet installed President to use force against it’s own people.

[Hot Tabasco]

If your government

If my aunt had balls she would have been my uncle.........

[swamprebel]

I find Putin appologist among Conservatives who believe in the rule of law, to be somewhat in a paradox.

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Moscow telling it’s puppet installed President

Now who would that be?

[swamprebel]

I find Putin appologist among Conservatives who believe in the rule of law, to be somewhat in a paradox. Either you believe in law, or you appologize for those who break it. Seems like a liberal concept to me. “Poor little johnny Putin couldn’t help it, look at how he was raised”.
Mr. Yanukovych was impeached, by members of his own party.
All legal and such.

[Hot Tabasco]

If your government called out Military snippers to shoot you down in the streets, because you had an opposing view, bet you’d defend yourself too.

You seem to forget here bro, there was no intent of a peaceful protest, the insurgents came armed with whatever weaponry they could get their hands on..........

And it wasn't until the armed insurgents got out of control that the police responded in kind with weapons fire........

[swamprebel]

Those armed insurgents had been protesting in the Maidan SQ. for Months. Russia’s Puppet Mr. Yanukovych, elected to bring the Ukraine into the EU, instead tried to take the Ukraine back behind the imaginary Iron Curtain that still lives in Putin’s head. Putin has poisoned past leaders, candidates and general opposition with radiation isotopes, lest you forget Alexander Litvinenko, Boris Berezovsky, or Anna Politkovskaya (Murdered on Putin’s Birthday). And now he breaks international law. Try to spin the low info folks, But it won’t work with me. Bro!

[swamprebel]

the police responded in kind

Local police my arse, they were paramilitary snippers. Even the UK Telegraph picked up on that.

[Hot Tabasco]

I find Putin appologist among Conservatives who believe in the rule of law, to be somewhat in a paradox.

So, now I'm a Putin "apologist"?

Tell me, did you approve of the administration's support in Syria and Libya? After all, the MSM told you it was the right thing to do and they gave you all the facts and pictures you needed to know.

If you wish to throw out the "apologist" claim then I could accuse you the same for supporting Obama......

So now you're trusting this administration's condemnation of Russia based on the MSM reports of the current insurgent riots going on in the Ukraine?

If you wish, I'll gladly post the recurring pictures of the dead baby with a pacifier the MSM flooded us with during the invasion of Iraq.........

[Hot Tabasco]

Local police my arse, they were paramilitary snippers

You've failed to convince me that the armed insurgents were nothing more than peaceful protesters...........

[Hot Tabasco]

Moscow telling it’s puppet installed President

I'm still waiting for your answer on who that individual was...........

[wolf78]

In other news from 1939: “German forces in Poland could be a stabilizing factor in a country with no legitimate govt - Says von Ribbentrop: Poland? What’s a Poland? Wasn’t here 25 years ago.” [/sarcasm]

[swamprebel]

What do you call the Russian troops in Crimea, who have removed their insignia's from their uniforms yet are wearing standard issue Russian fatigues, you know, the ones who have stormed local government buildings and taken local authorities hostage, and raised the Russian flag. I guess there not “Armed Insurgents”, perhaps they are candy stripe nurses.

[swamprebel]

Viktor Yanukovych, you know the guy, President of Ukraine until his removal from power by the Ukrainian parliament. The one who had Viktor Yushchenko poisoned by result of dioxin. He has been a Moscow puppet since his election. "Viktor Yanukovych, was supported by the Russian government and then president Vladimir Putin" according to: Revolution in Orange: The Origins of Ukraine's Democratic Breakthrough, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

[Hot Tabasco]

"Viktor Yanukovych, was supported by the Russian government and then president Vladimir Putin"

That's a pretty impressive argument. So tell me, how were the Russians able to convince the population to vote for Yanukovych? As you know, it was a free election............

[swamprebel]

The Yanukovych team and the outgoing president's administration used their control of the government and state apparatus for intimidation of Yushchenko and his supporters. Local officials in Eastern and Southern Ukraine, the stronghold of Viktor Yanukovych, started a series of actions alluding to the possibility of the breakup of Ukraine or an extra-constitutional federalisation of the country, should their candidate's claimed victory not be recognised. Yanukovych was officially certified as the victor by the Central Election Commission, which itself was allegedly involved in falsification of electoral results by withholding the information it was receiving from local districts and running a parallel illegal computer server to manipulate the results. The election was marred by claims that "Western PR consultants had helped orchestrate this rebellion". On the other hand, Russia's involvement in the election was more direct and heavily on the side of Prime Minister Yanukovych. The extent of this involvement is still contested but some facts are indisputable such as multiple meetings between (hugely popular in Ukraine at the time) Russian president Vladimir Putin, Kuchma the out going President. and Yanukovych before and during the elections. Putin repeatedly congratulated Yanukovych while the results were still contested, which was soon to embarrass both parties. This was stated in The Colour Revolutions in the Former Soviet Republics: Ukraine. by Nathaniel Copsey, Routledge Contemporary Russia and Eastern Europe Series (page 30-44) In Ukraine the trust in the Central Election Commission of Ukraine in Ukraine is very low.