How Free Trade Is Killing Middle America

The American Conservative ^ | Jan. 24, 2014 | Patrick J. Buchanan

[ex-snook]

"If we want to bring manufacturing back to America we can only do it through regulatory and tax reform. Exactly, perfectly correct. "

You forgot coolie wages and pollution.

[central_va]

Do you know the percentage of MANUFACTURING workers are in a union? DO I need to tell you? (Your fighting the last war, try to speed up)

[Mad Dawgg]

"Do you know the percentage of MANUFACTURING workers are in a union? DO I need to tell you? (Your fighting the last war, try to speed up)"

See this is your problem. You claim that the low number of manufacturing jobs that are union backs up your theory. When it actually disproves it.

Unionistas want to tax and regulate the market to try and force companies to create jobs in the USA when that is exactly why they are disappearing.

Try and learn its not working AND MORE OF THE SAME WILL MAKE IT EVEN MORESO!

[1rudeboy]

The government fixes everything it breaks. And while there is such thing as a free lunch, there’s no such thing as the Law of Unintended Consequences. I know because Marx told me.

[central_va]

Unionistas want to tax and regulate the market to try and force companies to create jobs in the USA when that is exactly why they are disappearing.

Bull crap the number of Right - Work - States is growing. Union presence in manufacturing is dead and nothing will bring that back. Get real. So what is the percentage? DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER?

[Jim Noble]

the thing that will go up in demand are people who understand and can use information

What a crock.

That will be good for THOSE people. Where I live, there are a lot of white young men whose dads used to grow stuff or make stuff. The ones who CAN'T "understand and use information" are about 75%, and if they have no work, they do meth and heroin and commit petty crimes.

If we keep growing THAT population, it won't matter how cheap sh*t is at WalMart.

And if your answer is "education", save it. The average working guy is what he is. For the smart ones (25%), there's more education than they know what to do with. For the rest, there's nothing past 10th grade that's worth doing.

[Alex Murphy]

Well, it’s not like everybody woke up and suddenly decided to outsource Industry. Outsourced industry is a result of hostile business conditions that have systematically forced American Manufacturing to foreign (more importantly, less regulated and taxed) sources. Chief among them are onerous EPA regulations, onerous Labor relations, high taxation and high cost of serviceable infrastructure. Mostly political reasons as higher government spending and associated costs just force higher and higher taxation.

Other reasons are now coming into play as our education system continues to dumb down the work force and make it even less competitive to foreign companies. This is egregious as it damages and erodes our future dominance or presence in global research.

Well stated.

[Mad Dawgg]

"So what is the percentage? DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER?"

When it gets to zero then I will know my work is done! (But now I am focusing on right to work in every state and destroying the public employee unions!)

[Jim Noble]

Unionistas want to tax and regulate the market to try and force companies to create jobs in the USA

So what? That's their function.

And if the result is my American brothers and sisters having work instead of cooking meth and doing break-ins, you know what?

I'm fine with it.

[Beagle8U]

“That is ABSOLUTLRY NOT TRUE. Labor is just one component in manufacturing, one of the smallest too.”

Exchange the word “labor” for ‘all expenses related to employing a worker’ and it is correct.

The term labor covers all the cost of employing a human worker.

Machines require no workmans comp insurance, no osha to protect their health, no wages or benefits, no SS or FICA matching funds, the list is endless for the cost of employing workers.

[Mad Dawgg]

"And while there is such thing as a free lunch, there’s no such thing as the Law of Unintended Consequences. I know because Marx told me."

cenntral va told me...

[central_va]

Many Fleepers by Flee Tlade clap.

[OneWingedShark]

I was merely expounding on Pietro’s “new economy based on information” idea; how it might come about.

Education would be good... if it really were education and not indoctrination/conformance-manipulation — but it’s not, so it’s really a moot point.

[central_va]

When it gets to zero then I will know my work is done!

So you don't know, yet you go on public forums a decry unions are ruining manufacturing. You are useful idiot. I have the answers and the links but I will not post them. Laziness does not become you.

[Beagle8U]

About 6% of public sector workers are union, the public sector unions are the problem today.

We need national RTW!

[Mad Dawgg]

"So what? That's their function."

yes and the function of criminals is to commit crime...

same difference.

And if you want jobs created then start a business and show us how its done.

I've done it for 35 years and I am done fighting the unionistas and the Gub'ment. I have shrugged and my family who has been in business (both sides) for over 100 years will do so no more.

None of the descendants on either side of the family is continuing their businesses. None! Why because its now a losing prospect. You spend all your time trying to satisfy Gub'ment B.S. ...

You should feel proud because your Unionista/Big Gub'ment philosophy is solely responsible for it!

[Beagle8U]

About 6% of PRIVATE sector are union.

[Mad Dawgg]

"So you don't know, yet you go on public forums a decry unions are ruining manufacturing."

Two problems with your assumption.

1. You are full of shit. 2. Unionistas aren't necessarily Union members. They are the useful idiots who believe in and promote Union/Big Gub'ment propaganda. If you want to know how to spot one look in the mirror...

[central_va]

About 6% of public sector workers are union, the public sector unions are the problem today. We need national RTW!

Agree, but this thread is about manufacturing.

[central_va]

So you don’t know the answer yet you’re an expert. So who is full of it again?