Posted on 01/13/2014 11:15:00 PM PST by smoothsailing
Someone should ask the media jabberers if they ever view the deaths of reporters in the field as senseless/unnecessary.
they should have tied them up well and tied them to trees , gagged & bound . They would have been found in several days due to the racket all the goats would be making . Yet they would have gotten away , far away , before any alarm was raised . Seemed like an easy call to me , but I wasn’t there . They paid for their leniency with their own lives . Don’t seem right to me .
Tying them to trees would have been murder. They talked about tgat.
Geeze do people really think these guys were stupid?
They are not out there to stay alive. They’re there to do a job. The possibility of death is part of it. They act wisely and within the rules of humane treatment and rules of engagement. They do not panic and kill people, unarmed kids, by shooting them nor by tying them to a tree to be eaten by animals in torture in order to stay alive
Our people should provide them with the best radio equipment
We need to get over this.
"From nits come lice".
A quote from Tom Quick, Avenger of the Delaware, to the horrified witness, after he had shot an Indian in his canoe, tomahawked the squaw, and dashed out the brains of their baby on a rock.
Movie was great..
As for rules of engagement, there should be one:
1). Win at all cost.
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I saw the film. It was tough to watch, knowing beforehand how it would end. Having all the luxury and comfort of hindsight, the right decision would have been to gag and hogtie the herders, quickly move to a point where radio contact could be established, and get lifted out of there or bring in a larger backup force or air support. At the point when the herders showed up, they had already determined that the enemy numbers in camp were much higher than was expected.
My solution? Take Chrissy (”tingle up my leg”) Matthews and some of his buds to Iraq or Afghanistan, give them each an M4 and one magazine, and let them walk the 40 miles or so back to camp. Be sure and pass the word of the event locally just after the dropoff. It will never happen, but a guy can dream, can’t he?
Just my take. They sure could’ve used a working radio to get a command decision on such a deal. They’d have been told to do what they did but not had to live with the guilt
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The media = domestic enemies.
It is amazing to look at the interview with Tapper and see how he literally squirmed in his chair. He was most uncomfortable and I believe that is in part because he knows how the media have been towards our soldiers. There’s guilt in him.
Look at how comfortable, concerned and gentle our media is when interviewing terrorists, rotten and evil world leaders and the like. They’ve never demonstrated the amount of discomfort that Tapper demonstrated while interviewing Luttrell.
As far as their decision...I think they made the only decision that disciplined soldiers could make in there situation. They are and were fine and brave men— our best.
I admittedly have no idea what any of this is like, but wonder if the reconnaissance was a problem. I’m sure things often don’t go according to plans, but it seems as though there were some errors by the central command people in estimating the size of the opposition, and maybe even in realizing that the mountains would make communication difficult, or that they could be spotted by civilians.
Saw the movie last night. The decision on the goat herds was definitely made out of concern about future prosecution.
The “Tie and leave them” option seemed a logical one. Villagers would have known where goats were being taken and would have searched for the herders when they didn’t return. By then, the team would have been across the mountain.
In summary, it’s a very intense movie with a good message. Luttrell is saved by a cultural factor and it seems good Karma for what was shown to the captives. The SEAL team culture is on full display in several aspects.
10. “Some members of the media might think they can brainwash the public anytime they like, but I know they can’t. Not here. Not in the United States of America.” (p. 376)
The book-length form of that statement is The Vision of the Anointed: Self-Congratulation as a Basis for Social Policy by Thomas Sowell. First published in the mid-1990s, it is still highly relevant today. Strongly recommended for better understanding our political adversaries.
There are no rules....
Back in 2004, during the electrion, Ellen Ratner made the statement that she would like to see more American military Service people killed in order to make Bush 43 look bad. She got a pass on that as she is still featured on FOX News to this day. And nobody ever brings it up.
The recon was bad.
The radios are bad
The phone deal went bad
They had to make decisions theyare not trained for, beyond their pay grade that were hard to swallow, because of the no communications
I don’t know either Just watching the movie
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