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Israel to Abbas: No, Jesus was not a Palestinian
Times of Israel ^ | December 23, 2013, 7:07 pm | Raphael Ahren

Posted on 12/23/2013 10:12:25 AM PST by Olog-hai

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To: stormer

Who described the region as Palestine in the fifth century?

It wasn’t called Palestine until the second century, so at the turn of that millennium, there was no Palestine. There was Judea and Galilee. The New Testament people were either Judeans (Jews) or Galilean.


121 posted on 12/24/2013 4:36:04 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: stormer

Herodotus? I’d like to see your source of that. It was the Romans who named the place Palestine, actually Syria Palestina, in the second century of the common era.

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2013/12/22/what-is-palestine-and-who-are-palestinians/


122 posted on 12/24/2013 4:39:52 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: stormer; Star Traveler; SkyDancer; flaglady47
>>There was never in the history of the world a “Palestinian” culture<< ...

No, it's a place. And if you were to move there...you could be a "Palestinian" too

Fifth century BCE. Herodotus...In the 5th Century, he described the region as Palestine.

>>Well I guess another historian heard from.<<

AHA!...And basically, what current countries would that region called Palestine have contained?

according to Herodotus, the region included the area called Judea and the Jordan Valley. Therefore, Judeans are technically Palestinians.

It was the Romans who named the place Palestine, actually Syria Palestina, in the second century of the common era.

So...it's been Palestine for a day or two.

Your ignorance is showing.

So exactly what would you call a long term Japanese immigrant to the region known as Palestine?

Apparently if he converted to Judaism, you'd call him a Jew

123 posted on 12/24/2013 5:53:41 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Daveinyork

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histories_(Herodotus)


124 posted on 12/24/2013 10:33:13 AM PST by stormer
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To: Daveinyork

The name is also dated to c. 1100 BCE through Egyptian sources as Peleset.


125 posted on 12/24/2013 10:36:52 AM PST by stormer
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To: stormer

Nope. the Peleset is what the Egyptions called the Peleset,
with who they skirmished in the reign of Ramses III, and a reference to Israel in the reign of Merneptah, his father.


126 posted on 12/26/2013 5:00:44 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: stormer

Which of those histories am I to read? Besides, it doesn’t matter. He was in Greece. At the time, the region was the Persian province of Judah, not Palestine. Herodotus could call it what he wanted, and probably also intended an insult by naming the region after the Philistines, to whom the Helenic Greeks were related. The Greeks saw the Jews as a backward and superstitious people.

The province was not officially renamed Palestine until after the Bar Kochba revolt in the second century CE. so the people living there before that were more likely Greeks, Romans, Jews, Samaritans, or Galileans, not Palestinians.


127 posted on 12/26/2013 5:07:59 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: Daveinyork

“The province was not officially renamed Palestine...”

You know there is no, nor has there ever been, a county named “America”. Yet there are hundreds of millions of people who identify themselves as “American”.


128 posted on 12/26/2013 6:22:05 AM PST by stormer
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To: stormer

The United States of America.


129 posted on 12/26/2013 6:56:33 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: stormer

Well, then they should all call themselves Asians, by your logic.


130 posted on 12/26/2013 6:57:35 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: stormer

People living there did not all themselves Palestinians until after the 1967 war.


131 posted on 12/26/2013 6:59:03 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
The quick correct on my phone kept changing it back and I finally gave up.

I hate when that happens! :-)

132 posted on 12/26/2013 3:54:15 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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