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Vladimir Putin, Conservative Icon
The Atlantic ^ | Dec 20, 2013 | Brian Whitmore

Posted on 12/21/2013 6:35:03 PM PST by Innovative

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It is a sad day indeed, when the president of Russia is the one defending traditional values, and the president of the US is trashing them...
1 posted on 12/21/2013 6:35:03 PM PST by Innovative
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for the last couple of years, joking aside, I’ve been trying to find where I disagree with putin.


2 posted on 12/21/2013 6:37:29 PM PST by willywill
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Putin’s full of it, of course. He’s not “conservative” when he divorces his wife on the grounds of their not being married in a church. He’s not “conservative” when he has his enemies thrown from windows, people beaten in dark alleyways so that they can never walk again. He’s a killer and a thief, and nothing more.


3 posted on 12/21/2013 6:37:40 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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VP has more cred than Zer0.


4 posted on 12/21/2013 6:38:55 PM PST by Paladin2
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Putin is doing what is in Putin’s interest. Americans that look up to him are truly lost.


5 posted on 12/21/2013 6:40:08 PM PST by EEGator
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Confusing times we are living in.

Conservatives used to support the police and hated the Russkies.

Now, many on the right loathe the police and voice support for Russian dictator Putin.

Really, I know Putin says he supports conservative values, but he is just a smart ex-commie.


6 posted on 12/21/2013 6:40:56 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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From an ex-KGB chief who thinks the biggest tragedy of the 20th Century was the death of the Soviet Union.

“Conservatism” doesn’t mean the same thing in Europe as here. Over there a traditional conservative means a statist.


7 posted on 12/21/2013 6:43:15 PM PST by Hugin
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We probably know more about Putin's background then we know about Obama's


8 posted on 12/21/2013 6:44:22 PM PST by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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Well, for starters he annexed Georgia. A few weeks ago he expanded state run media. And he stole the last election.

Putin is not a nice guy.

9 posted on 12/21/2013 6:45:04 PM PST by what's up
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Well, for starters he annexed Georgia.

No, he didn't!

10 posted on 12/21/2013 6:46:20 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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“Americans that look up to him are lost”

Count me as lost. He kept us from starting another stupid Middle East war - in Syria. I suppose you’re sad we don’t have 50000 American troops there right now, which Obama was setting us up for.


11 posted on 12/21/2013 6:48:08 PM PST by WilliamIII
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Homosexual marriage is more of threat to civilization than most of what our Homeland Security is spending/wasting its billions pursuing.

Putin is standing up against insidious moral degeneration. Whatever his inner motives, he’s on the side of civilization against barbarism when it comes to this core issue.


12 posted on 12/21/2013 6:50:38 PM PST by WilliamIII
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The Russian president is positioning himself as the world's leading defender of traditional values

Actually, it's the Church which is leading the defense of traditional values. I wonder what KGB Putin has to say about that.

13 posted on 12/21/2013 6:54:11 PM PST by what's up
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So you find it impossible to not look up to Putin and be against military intervention in Syria?


14 posted on 12/21/2013 6:54:17 PM PST by EEGator
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I’m not a fan, but I don’t think he hates or wants to kill the majority of Russians. That’s better than we’re doing over here.


15 posted on 12/21/2013 6:55:03 PM PST by The Toll
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huh? make sense and I might answer.


16 posted on 12/21/2013 6:55:12 PM PST by WilliamIII
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Putin’s been very supportive of the Russian Orthodox Church - and on the international scene has said he wants to defend Christians against Muslim persecution. When did you last hear that from Obama - or even from Bush before him?


17 posted on 12/21/2013 6:56:34 PM PST by WilliamIII
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I do not look up to Putin.
I do not want our military involved in Syria.
Do you find it impossible for me to hold those two ideas at the same time?

P.S. That’s twice you’ve been a pompous ass with your replies.


18 posted on 12/21/2013 6:58:50 PM PST by EEGator
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To: what's up

Putie strongly supports the traditional European value of state sponsored religious monopoly.


19 posted on 12/21/2013 7:00:38 PM PST by Hugin
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They also have a nice flat tax in Russia:

‘Personal income tax (PIT) is levied individually normally at 13 percent. There is no joint filing. Employers withhold income taxes, thus the taxpayers whose only taxable income was paid by employer do not need to file a tax return—except to claim a refund for itemized deductions.

The most important deductions are for home purchase (once a life), and education and medical expenses. Deductions require documentation and are subject to limitations. Tax returns are mandatory for registered entrepreneurs and professionals (lawyers, notaries, etc.), sellers of personal assets and recipients of other income. Out of 10.4 million registered residents of Moscow, only 94 thousand filed tax 2006 returns and 105 thousand filed for 2007.[41] State pensions and alimony are normally not taxable, as well as bank interest (unless it exceeds the refinancing rate set by Central Bank of Russia).

Capital gains from asset sales are taxable only if the seller owned the asset for less than 3 years.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Code_of_Russia#Federal_taxes


20 posted on 12/21/2013 7:02:25 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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