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A&E not oppressing Phil Robertson with suspension
Mercury News ^ | 12/19/2013 | Tony Hicks

Posted on 12/19/2013 5:49:34 PM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic

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To: gr8eman
So...if you call your boss a douchebag at the Christmas party you can be canned. But if you call your boss a D'bag in an interview with GQ, they can fire you...but then legally you have the right for recompense as I understand it. That is because of free speech.

No, it would make no difference where you said it. And whether your boss is able to fire you or not rests solely upon the individual bargaining agreement that was in play. If per the conditions of the contract A&E was allowed to suspend or terminate it without compensation, then A&E owed him nothing regardless of their reason for termination. And in all likelihood, that is what happened here. Robertson isn't complaining that his civil rights are being violated. Instead he is acting as if he already knows it is within A&E's discretion to terminate at any time.

201 posted on 12/21/2013 6:53:19 PM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Hoodat

>> No one is preventing Robertson from saying what he says.

So in your opinion, political correctness does impede speech in any way whatsoever?


202 posted on 12/21/2013 7:04:38 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Hoodat
>> No one is preventing Robertson from saying what he says.

So in your opinion, political correctness does not impede speech in any way whatsoever?
203 posted on 12/21/2013 7:06:05 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

You tell me. Does it impede yours? It certainly does not impede mine.


204 posted on 12/21/2013 7:07:04 PM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Hoodat

Not a very clever dodge.


205 posted on 12/21/2013 7:25:22 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Hoodat
Just so there's no further confusion, "freedom of speech" is defined as, but not limited to, the following:

freedom of speech: the right to express any opinions without censorship or restraint.

And "censorship" is defined as, but not limited to, the following:

censorship: the suppression of material deemed to be politically unacceptable.

You'll notice I made no direct references to Constitutional law.


206 posted on 12/21/2013 7:43:43 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Personal Responsibility

I never intended to make the Constitutional argument. But the situation does indeed involve elements of fascism.


207 posted on 12/21/2013 7:56:43 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

If you will notice, political correctness did not impede Robertson from freely expressing his opinion.


208 posted on 12/21/2013 7:58:38 PM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Hoodat

Oppression works better with its examples. And as far as I’m concerned, that’s what we’re seeing with the suspension. Specifically, speak against homosexuality, and there will be consequences. Furthermore, such threats are being instituted in law.


209 posted on 12/21/2013 8:11:59 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Quote of the month.

Liberals are just power and money hungry bastards with no consciences or ethic.

Gee, sounds like a lot of Democrats to me (and some RINOS, to boot).


210 posted on 12/21/2013 8:53:26 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Gene Eric

You’ll be assumed to be making a constitutional argument When you say things like “freedom of speech” on a political forum. I hope you can see why.

To your point, it’s an overreaction by A&E and I’d wager he was setup to fail. Hollywood hates conservatism and the popularity of their show gave us a rather large soapbox. Liberals can’t have that.


211 posted on 12/21/2013 8:54:04 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic

Typical leftist wishy washy answer. At least Robertson had the balls to tell us what he thought, straight out and in your face.

Hicks, like so many leftists or even libertarians, has no balls. End of story.


212 posted on 12/21/2013 8:59:12 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: F15Eagle

“I love animalths!”

“I love, too - they’re delicious.”

Classic.


213 posted on 12/22/2013 9:41:05 AM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: Hoodat

I agree A&E has every right to fire people for any reason they want constitutionally speaking.

Liberals however including hypocritically A&E’s leadership most likely don’t believe in that freedom Instead they believe in the 1964 Civil rights act which explicitly states you can’t fire someone for expressing their religious believes on their own time as Phil Robertson was fired for doing here. (Perhaps they simply believe that applies to liberal religions?)

I don’t agree with the Constitutionality of this act, and am thus in agreement with you in that they can technically fire him for whatever reason they want including unethical reasons like the fact that he doesn’t share their religious believes to stick to their restrictive speech code while on his own time.

That being said Phil should hold the leftist like A&E to their own standards and sue under the civil rights act of 1964. Leftist need to learn that their own oppressive laws should apply to them as much as their enemies.


214 posted on 12/22/2013 3:20:53 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Gene Eric

The issue is the civil rights act of 1964 in which leftist passed laws against firing someone on the account of their religious believes.

We don’t agree with the constitutionality of that act but that doesn’t mean we should let Liberals apply it only as a weapon against us.


215 posted on 12/22/2013 3:22:42 PM PST by Monorprise
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