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1 posted on 12/12/2013 7:04:32 PM PST by annalex
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this judge is an arse


48 posted on 12/12/2013 9:05:03 PM PST by Nifster
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This “judge” must be a fag. The powah has gone to his empty head. I’d like the fag to show us where in the Constitution he finds his freedom from religion nonsense.


50 posted on 12/12/2013 9:09:05 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If you think signing up for ObamaCare was fun, wait until you try to use it.)
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Hey Judgy Wudgy! LOOK! Those pesky power companies are in cahoots with those wascally Christians! Get your gun and shoot 'em Judgy!

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53 posted on 12/12/2013 10:26:40 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If you think signing up for ObamaCare was fun, wait until you try to use it.)
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And what precise date was used in the document sent out by the Judge relaying the judicial decision? Did he use "2013 Anno Domini" (Year of Our Lord 2013)? Isn't that a violation of separation of Church and State? Let's see the letter, judge. If that is the case, what is your justification?

60 posted on 12/12/2013 11:03:50 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Kim Jong Un won't have a single "bad underwear day" unless/until we've a patriot in the White House)
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I thought the issue over the cross was resolved on July 31, 2008 by U.S. Federal Judge Larry Alan Burns. I guess the Left will never accept defeat and will keep beating the same old drum.

Thankfully, an Episcopal church, located within a few hundred feet from the present location of the cross, has agreed to place it on its property.


61 posted on 12/12/2013 11:07:01 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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Here's some raw meat for the atheists. Postal workers, and I'm sure just about every other civil service employee are not only paid for Christmas, regardless of their religion, or lack their of, but those who actually work on Dec 25 get an extra 2.5 times their base pay, unlike the other federal holidays where it's only double. I dare the ACLU, American atheists, and others to challenge this employee benefit in court. Let's see them take on the union thugs in the SEIU, APWU, AFSME, etc. I TRIPLE-dog dare them!
66 posted on 12/12/2013 11:51:50 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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http://proliberty.com/observer/20010802.htm

This is one of the lies that, having been told often enough, is now believed to be true. We want to believe in the sanctity of our national parks, wilderness areas and forest lands. They are a wonderful public resource. However, the truth is, the federal government is constitutionally prohibited from owning this type of property within a state.

The constitutional facts of life

The founders of America drafted the United States Constitution to form a limited federal government. It was designed to take care of only those things which were truly our national business. The state governments or the people were to keep all other powers. Article One, Section 8, Clause 17, offers the only provision in the Federal Constitution for federal ownership of land. It provides for the creation of Washington, D.C. as the seat of the federal government and allows the federal government to purchase lands in a state with “...the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings.”

This is the only kind of property that the federal government is empowered to own in a state. The federal government cannot own forest lands. Why? Because no such power has ever been delegated to it and the Tenth Amendment prohibits the federal government from assuming any power which has not been delegated to it by the Constitution: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.” This is the first constitutional fact of life preventing federal public land ownership within a state
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Public lands are for the public and this needs to be litigated over and over by each state. A federal judge does not have the authority to make or enforce such a ruling based on a false premise.


67 posted on 12/13/2013 12:02:31 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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Saying that no religion trumps religion is just as much establishing a religious position, just as unconstitutional.

Why can’t the numbskull Marxists understand this?


68 posted on 12/13/2013 12:35:05 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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MARYland
73 posted on 12/13/2013 2:59:18 AM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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When a Federal Judge does not support the Constitution and worse when his opinion does NOT support the Establishment Clause of Our first amendment—Which should we the People support— the unjust -unconstitutional judge—or the Constitution. I say IMPEACH these judges and install Judges who do support the Constitution. I say keep the Mt.Soledad Cross and remove the anti-Constitutional judge.


74 posted on 12/13/2013 3:52:59 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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We need to think out of the box here. Let's do what liberals do and redefine the problem. The cross is a symbol of ALL religions and all mankind, not just Christianity. It's a universal symbol. Finish by saying liberals just aren't smart enough to understand that subtle point.

There's more than one way to skin a cat.

75 posted on 12/13/2013 4:17:19 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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We need to have Global Warming and Liberalism classified as religions. Then start working on the Church/State arguments.


77 posted on 12/13/2013 4:58:17 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it stood.)
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Just what the Founders intended: black robed tyrants.

This is why we have to control Congress for a generation, so that we can clear out vermin like this judge.


78 posted on 12/13/2013 5:15:48 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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I live in a pretty conservative town in New Jersey. Every year, the town puts a big nativity scene up right on the front lawn of the public library.

Somehow, in all these years, nobody in the town has alerted the proper liberal police. Yet.

86 posted on 12/13/2013 5:56:16 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Brand a cross into the judge’s face and if he wants it removed, he’s free to cut off his head.

Hee hee hee hee


97 posted on 12/13/2013 6:23:36 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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and the beat goes one....I thought the Cross was going to stay up and the case was over and done


99 posted on 12/13/2013 7:11:23 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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Methinks Judge Burns stepped in it....

Burns immediately stayed his order pending an expected appeal.

...not quite up to his neck.

5.56mm

108 posted on 12/13/2013 8:59:25 AM PST by M Kehoe
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A cross atop Mount Soledad in California is an unconstitutional religious display on government land

What constitution is he reading? It certainly isn't the US Constitution.

109 posted on 12/13/2013 9:25:44 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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How long have the leftist douches been fighting this?

Too bad the right doesn’t have the fight mentality and tenacity to use against these godless tools.

Compromisers R us.


111 posted on 12/13/2013 10:30:03 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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I asked a friend about this as she is usually more versed in matters than I, and this is what she replied to me with:

Apologies if there are errors in the following, but this is my understanding...

Note that it was the Republican Congress and George W. Bush who converted this property to federal land. A ballot initiative to sell to the highest bidder had failed, and one to donate it to the federal government passed overwhelmingly (but was ruled unconstitutional). So Congress and GWB stepped in and took it at the request of the City of San Diego, “to save the cross” by making it federal.

Judge Larry Alan Burns earlier (2008) ruled in favor of the cross, but in January 2011, a three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit of Appeals reversed his decision unanimously.

Judge Burns noted that the Ninth Circuit’s reversal wording pretty much tied his hands, making it clear that nothing but removal would be acceptable.* I believe that he felt that all he could do was issue this ruling that would pave the way for the SCOTUS to take up the case (that they’d previously declined). See his order here

I’m not so sure the SCOTUS will allow the cross to stand—even Justice Alito seemed against it from what I remember. Only time will tell, but my guess is that they’ll order it taken down.

*From http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/Dec/12/mount-solidad-cross-constitution-removal/2/?#article-copy:

Physically altering the cross was found not to be viable. In the end, Burns said he felt his hands were tied and there was little room to maneuver around the 9th Circuit’s ruling of unconstitutionality.

“Deliberate language in the opinion makes it clear that removal of the large, historic cross is the only remedy that the Ninth Circuit conceives will cure the constitutional violation,” Burns wrote in his ruling.

113 posted on 12/13/2013 10:47:41 AM PST by beaversmom
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