It's nice to see that "Baghdad Bob" found a new gig.
Posted on 12/10/2013 10:00:43 AM PST by xzins
>>>The irony gets a little thick on these threads. Imagine telling your typical Ukrainian protesting against the Russians that “conservatives on FR” have decided that they know what’s best for them, and it is not the EU.<<<
You are right on so many points but it doesn’t chance the fact that some 20% percent of Ukrainians are actually Russian (and they aren’t immigrants), another 40% of Ukrainians are pro-Russian.
Most of them has their national identity as Ukrainians, but they are leaning towards Russia and don’t like EU.
Another fact is that more than half of protesters wants EU just to make leaving Ukraine for Germany easier.
A good rule for any news coming out of Russia is not to believe one word from any Russian news service. Just believe the opposite. It is kinda like the democrats...
Here is an interactive chart that will show you why the above statement is incorrect. For the most part.
You NWO muppets are a hoot.
Maybe you can explain how overnight a few hundred police were able to clear off the two hundred thousand protesters you claim were present.
I’m sure the Russian media will claim Putin did it by himself. Let me know when you are told what to say.
Well, it is certainly a recent photo. There is a 2013 Lexus ad poster on a side of the building.
Thats a very interesting interactive chart. Thank you.
Out of curiosity, I compared Russia with France, with a couple of interesting results.
“On the night of August 7-8, 2008, Russia sent troops into the breakaway Georgian region of South Ossetia after Georgia attacked the region’s main city, Tskhinvali, where Russian peacekeepers were based...”
That from Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, or do you consider that a “commie” source?
Tskhinvali is recognized as part of Georgia by all countries apart from Russia and a couple of its close allies. The Russian “peacekeepers” were based in Georgia.
So the Georgians attacked their own city and killed their own civilians (and Russian troops) first.
“BBC describes evidence of Georgian war crimes in South Ossetia...”
Ukraine Police Back Off After Failing to Stop Protest [Free Republic]Maybe Vladi's superhuman powers are not as great as we think.
What would Russian troops be doing in a Georgian city?
It's nice to see that "Baghdad Bob" found a new gig.
With independence from the defunct USSR, the Orange Revolution, all of that, why on earth was a statue of Lenin still standing anywhere in Ukraine? Just wondering.
There are still a lot of Bolshies around in the world. Some of them even post here.
Because there was a continuing presence there by powers still dedicated to that way of life.
First, take off your NWO approved beer goggles and stop pretending the Russians are even involved on the ground in Kiev.
Next, acknowledge the simple fact that a just few hundred Ukrainian police cleared off the couple of thousand refuseniks who were blocking the streets around the capital last night, while leaving their "camp" in place. That task was done on purpose as stated by the Ukrainian Interior Minister Vitaly Zakharchenko yesterday and (big surprise) misreported by western media.
Finally, consider what the EU deal was actually offering the Ukraine...a decade or more of IMF imposed serfdom with the concomitant loss of national sovereignty, in exchange for relaxed travel restrictions and some hopium about 'building a common infrastructure'. Compare that to Russia's legitimate offer of some immediate financing on favorable terms, and maintenance of Ukraine/Russia trade existing agreements including the transshipping of Russian gas to Europe.
The Europeans over played their hand in trying to force a deal, while the Russians (as usual) are playing a deeper game. Its gonna take more than some East European hippies "refusing" to go home in sub-zero weather, or their dopey neocon rooting section in the West to change things in Kiev.
Putin doesn't give a crap for communism. He's an authoritarian bully-boy intent on expanding his empire. In other words, he's like pretty much every Russian leader going back to Ivan the Terrible. I think that a couple of centuries from now, historians will look at the communist era as just one more dynasty.
A friend of mine once took a Russian history class. His comment when it was over was, "The Russians have always been the Russians."
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