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Aliens...what a load of bunk.

If aliens do exist and that's a big if, I seriously doubt they are visiting the Earth or giving people an anal probe.

Seriously though, I really don't think we'll find evidence of alien life any time soon.

1 posted on 12/08/2013 8:32:23 PM PST by Carbonsteel
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We have to be indeed very careful about words like life, aliens or other potential fascist liberal imagery in this for political narcissist purposes.

The Bible promised the Jews to multiply as the stars in the sky if they followed God.

That is good sensical enough for me, but common sense is too boring for crooks and sophisticate atheists.


102 posted on 12/08/2013 11:08:34 PM PST by lavaroise
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The argument that, since the universe is so vast that it is a certainty that life must have developed somewhere else is a completely empty argument. First of all, no one knows how life can develop from non-life. We absolutely do not know how.

Since amino acids have been discovered in space, some people argue that the universe is big enough so that amino acids could randomly associate the proteins necessary for life. The universe is big, but not nearly big enough. We estimate there to be about 200 billion galaxies in the universe, each with approx 200 billion stars. The total number of atoms in the universe is about 10 to the 80th power.

The smallest molecule that classifies as a protein requires a chain of amino acids 81 units long. The number of 81 unit amino acid combinations in this smallest of all proteins is 10 to the 129th power.

Suppose that all the atoms in the universe were not atoms but were amino acids instead. Further suppose that every amino acid anywhere in the universe could combine with any other amino acid and that the universe was working full-time assembling 81 unit amino acid chains, a thousand times per second ever since the universe began 13.7 billion years ago.

The universe would have been able to try about ten to the 98th power combinations meaning that the universe is about ten billion, billion, trillion times too small or too young. The universe is unimaginably tiny compared to the random odds of producing life. So just saying the universe is big isn’t enough. It can’t happen by random processes.

There *must* be some other force at work or else there just isn’t any other life out there. It is intellectual fraud to present non-zero odds for life elsewhere in the universe at this point in time. We have no evidence of extra-terrestrial life whatsoever, and we don’t even have a theory about how life can form from non-life. So these statements of certainty that there is other life out there are based one-hundred percent on faith and only faith.

Nothing wrong with faith. But scientists shouldn’t pretend that they are basing there estimates on science when they are based solely and completely on faith.


111 posted on 12/08/2013 11:33:56 PM PST by pjd
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The number of factors that had to be right in order to get an earth is “large” to understate it grandly.

To get another natively habitable planet within spacecraft travel capability is somewhere between slim and none, with slim having fled town. Quite outside of the questions of creation upon that planet.


121 posted on 12/09/2013 12:33:36 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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Good dissection of the Drake Equation:

"... the Drake Equation is simply guesswork dressed up to look like data."

And a great reference on the compatibility of possible alien life with Christianity

“Can Christianity Accommodate an Extraterrestrial Reality?“

135 posted on 12/09/2013 7:54:38 AM PST by SparkyBass
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Some unusually good commentary and discussion following this article, at least to the point of this ping. I think you’d enjoy it.


178 posted on 12/13/2013 11:57:07 AM PST by lonevoice (Resentment is like drinking poison and then hoping it will kill your enemies)
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