Posted on 12/07/2013 8:03:14 AM PST by Innovative
Before our legislators and Governor decided to fist the good people of this State by recognizing “civil Unions” When we said NO to such back when Hick was selected to be Governor— Our corrupt Courts were doing end runs around our State law in custody case decisions granting parental rights to lesbians. Now we have this anti-discrimination crap and the corrupt judges say the rights of conscious mean nothing to the elite. Making us all like Sodom and Like unto Gomorrah is their aim.
You make a good point: the rule of law is vanished; “rulings” are now based on subjective, arbitrary personal viewpoints.
People always say, “He should bake them a lousy cake, put Ex-Lax in,” etc. But he shouldn’t have to do that! A private business should be able to refuse service to whomever they want, for any reason, period.
Though it IS pretty stupid to try to force someone to bake something for you. Some people (not this guy) WOULD get revenge by putting something bad into the cake.
This is a freedom issue, one we really have to fight hard against, and continue to speak out about. We must NOT let them tell private businesses whom they must serve.
This is where the judge is both dead wrong, and where these cases differ from the rules that require a company to serve a black person.
Black is what a person is. So if you refuse to serve a black person, you are refusing them service simply because of who they are.
If you refused to sell a cake to a gay person that you would sell to a straight person, again you'd be doing so because of who they were (actually what they are, but I'll just use the judge's screw-up on that matter).
But a gay wedding is not a "who they are", or "what they are" -- it is an ACTION. The bakery is refusing to make a cake in support of the ACTION of a gay marriage.
If a gay man asked them for a cake to marry a lesbian, the bakery would have done so, even though the man would be gay, and the woman lesbian. It isn't their identity that is the issue, it is the action they are taking.
We should have the right to refuse to support ACTIONS that we disagree with.
civil disobedience of these court decisions is what we need to do.
Heck if the President can ignore laws he doesn’t like, then we can too
“This view, however, fails to take into account the cost to society and the hurt caused to persons who are denied service simply because of who they are.”
The idiot judge fails to admit to themself or anyone else, that their ruling “fails to take into account” the “cost to society” (destruction of real Liberty and real “diversity”) and the “hurt caused to persons” (the bakery shop owners) who are denied THEIR LIBERTY “because of who they are”.
If we are to keep REAL Liberty, “discrimination” is something forbidden ONLY to the government.
That is not to say, that moral society cannot, socially and for good moral reason, NOT be prejudiced about some things, but, in our free associations it should be mostly the social sphere of society and not law and the heavy hand of government that works against “prejudice” via moral force, from church and society, not laws, police and judges.
What was ONE of the real errors of “Jim Crow” laws in the South and things like school segregation? It WAS THE LAW and because it was the law it limited the social space in which prejudices could be broken down over time. Segregation was not something that just happened in much of the “deep south”, it was enforced, by the law.
Now, we have government, in the form of judges, enforcing DISCRIMINATION against anyone who disagrees with their view about same-sex marraige. Do such acts help make the society more “diverse”? No. It is nothing less than an attempt to enforce “conformity”, not true diversity.
What happened to
‘No shirt, no shoes, no service’?
How can this be legal in any way?
This is a business...not a government agency for pete’s sake a FREE enterprise....at least that was once. These days you can be told who you could hire, who you could fire, the wage you must pay, Do you now have to search astrology signs to be certain you have your quota of Gemini’s and Sagittarius on the payroll?
I just emailed them and told them they are 1000% correct. I decided to buy a cake and told them to donate it to their church.
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