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Taxed to the Point of No Recovery; France Plans Tougher "Exit Tax"
Townhall.com ^ | December 6, 2013 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 12/06/2013 12:34:04 PM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 12/06/2013 12:34:05 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Left wing governance has devastated the west. Its long past time to try something different.


2 posted on 12/06/2013 12:37:58 PM PST by skeeter
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Several years ago I spoke with a South African businessman. He was slipping his money out of SA by buying antiques abroad. He’d buy one fake and one real and send the real one to America and the fake to SA. That way, no tax. His plan was to eventually get all of his wealth out and leave. (The SA government was trying to keep whites from leaving with their money. They didn’t care if they left, they just wanted their wealth to stay.) The French will get it out somehow. They may buy gold and just take it out a bit at a time and deposit it in Britain.


3 posted on 12/06/2013 12:38:04 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Kaslin

“We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.”


4 posted on 12/06/2013 12:38:28 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe the should do what Gerard Depardieu did... head to Russia. The women are prettier there, and don’t have any dental problems!


5 posted on 12/06/2013 12:42:31 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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Worry not—the right wing will be in power soon and these taxes will evaporate like mist in the sunlight. Its not going to be a good day for Unions and Islamic people. Watch as a movement cleans house. France will go neo-fascist. Factories will bloom once again. france will be just the first—other nations will follow—even england and Germany.


6 posted on 12/06/2013 12:43:21 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Kaslin

And course such a tax will really encourage young French entrepreneurs and businessmen and businesswomen to stay in France and grow their firms. sarc/ Yes the older established business people may stay but the new creative class will leave before they have much to accumulate.

The solution in France: an exit tax just for leaving.


7 posted on 12/06/2013 12:43:42 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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The women are prettier there, and don’t have any dental problems!

Man is that true

8 posted on 12/06/2013 12:48:03 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Kaslin
That sounds like a great idea.

“You can go but leave your money here”

is that even enforceable?

9 posted on 12/06/2013 12:49:01 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Gen.Blather

The scenario you describe sounds chillingly like what the German Jews started doing in the 1930’s.


10 posted on 12/06/2013 12:49:39 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Temporary tag line - RIP Paul Walker)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe Sharia law will fix the problem.


11 posted on 12/06/2013 12:51:24 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Kaslin

An Exit Tax is a Marxist idea based on the notion that everything you have comes from the State.

Hussein was making reference to that concept when he said “you didn’t build that”.

It’s the assumption that the State owns you, and private property does not exist...only the communal property of the Party and the State...which are of course identical.

It’s the rhetoric of gangsters and thugs, and ultimately feudalism...which also are the same thing.

France’s feudalists are the Leftists themselves, who descend from the old aristocracy, and merely adopt the rhetoric of Marx and Rousseau to justify their personal privilege, power and income.


12 posted on 12/06/2013 12:52:10 PM PST by Regulator
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BF Deal. It’s not any better here.

Our highest marginal tax rate on ordinary income is 43% with the Obamacare tax thrown in, and that’s just Federal. States have taxes too, averaging around 5 or 6%.

If you forfeit US citizenship, it’s a taxable event. Our highest Federal Tax on capital gains is 23.8%, higher than France’s.

If you live abroad and you are a US citizen, you have to pay taxes to the US (although there are some living allowances and credits for taxes paid to the country in which you are earning). France doesn’t have that.

What France may have that we don’t have is the $1 million plus earners tax. Hollande tried 75%, but that was held to be too much by the courts.

They also have the VAT, which is higher than most of our sales taxes.

Most developed countries have VERY hungry governments.


13 posted on 12/06/2013 12:52:11 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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It was typically about $50,000 to leave the old Soviet Union.

I know Russian Jews who gladly paid it.


14 posted on 12/06/2013 12:53:14 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Gen.Blather

Several years ago I spoke with a South African businessman. He was slipping his money out of SA by buying antiques abroad. He’d buy one fake and one real and send the real one to America and the fake to SA. That way, no tax. His plan was to eventually get all of his wealth out and leave. (The SA government was trying to keep whites from leaving with their money. They didn’t care if they left, they just wanted their wealth to stay.) The French will get it out somehow. They may buy gold and just take it out a bit at a time and deposit it in Britain.

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I personally know a white SA couple that did it with diamonds. It got pretty crazy in South Africa for awhile it seems.


15 posted on 12/06/2013 12:53:40 PM PST by Tulane
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This would be easy in a country like Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela, or Zimbabwe where the currency isn’t really convertible anyway.


16 posted on 12/06/2013 12:56:50 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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I guess they could try buying bitcoins....


17 posted on 12/06/2013 12:58:01 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Regulator

I vaguely remembered that but not the details.

was that $50K in communist currency?

Or did they have to get dollar based donations?


18 posted on 12/06/2013 12:59:41 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Regulator
But now a days dont the French rich put their money in foreign banks?
Does the EU enforce French tax laws?
19 posted on 12/06/2013 1:01:34 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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They’ll have to flee France in balloons, like they did in East Germany.


20 posted on 12/06/2013 1:04:03 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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