Posted on 12/06/2013 8:24:56 AM PST by Kaslin
Wouldn’t your solution require massive government intervention? How is that justified in a free market economy?
LOL. FReeper lore blast from the past.
that is the whole point, the free market got us fast computers, smart phones and machines, robots, automated checkout, all killing jobs increasing wealth gap.
Where is Chairman Mao when we need him.
I see your point. I’m not sure what is, or if there is, a good answer to it. It’s certainly a difficult and important question to ponder.
Between the two, I prefer Colossus, mostly for the camp factor.
I would like to see the return of the pretty ladies who bring your meal to the car, the ladies with short skirts, long legs, and speed skates. Where did they go? Also, what about the teen-age boys on their first job pumping your gasoline and asking if you want them to check the oil. Where did they go? (Oh, some north eastern states require them).
Why don’t the union bosses buy the robots instead of the businesses buying the robots and then collect 100 percent of the robots’ wages and 100 percent of their pension contributions as union dues?
If robots increase productivity statistics sky-high, wouldn’t prices drop dramatically and quality increase as well? This has happened before but life continued and adapted. I think I’ll find a comfortable lazy hole and let the machines do all the work.
Will wars be fought only via robots? “Captain, our drones are not working! The monitor keeps showing the blue screen of death... yes, that’s the kind of software. Captain, to have people pilot the planes like the old days would be unthinkable, ghastly, and a sure act of manslaughter.”
WE are facing a situation here that is utterly without precedent in human history. And nobody is talking about it. Liberals want redistribution of wealth, and conservatives assume the free market will continue to handle the situation adequately, as it has for the last 200 years.
What if they’re both wrong? What if we’re headed for an extremely productive and therefore wealthy society, but one which requires very few people to keep it running, in an economic sense? What does everybody else do?
I also suggest that we have been subconciously addressing the issue for decades. What else would you call the explosion in administrative jobs, regulations, diversity counseling, and other jobs that have little or nothing to do with actually generating products or services people want to buy? This is primarily but not exclusively a government issue.
This issue was very presciently addressed about 20 years ago by the authors of The Bell Curve. It was about how to deal with those for whom society has no economic role.
Since it did not gloss over the fact that a disproportionate number of those who will be most affected are ethnic minorities, the book and its authors were pilloried as racist, and the actual questions it posed were ignored. As they still are.
“You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair they made the Jews wear.”
And the camera had a redlight on it just like a laptop cam?
Why didnt Colossus just do a fake and turn off the red light?
War Games was fun movie that really moved from scene to scene without boredom and then the predictable happy ending.
Colossus was campy like you say and kept the mood dark and scary on purpose, and unlike War games the computer takes over USA and USSR and ends the cold war, holding us all hostage at the end.
Really two great very different movies.
No. Because their code and programming must be based on logic. And unions are illogical.
Public sector unions seem to have a good thing going, except when they occasionally bankrupt a city after taxpayers flee it.
I recall unions were trying to unionize the unemployed, only when the unemployed go on strike no one seems to notice them missing.
I have heard of the book and its main points. I think I’ll read it now...thanks for the reminder and your responses.
Tysons Mall (not the Galleria) outside DC has a sushi bar with a conveyor belt that does just that.
When I get home I’ll post pics. It’s neat. But the important thing to realize is that all the components are out there to allow restaurants to cut staff by up to 80%. Once the tipping points in terms of wage inflation are passed, they WILL be implemented and there won’t be any going back.
I am well aware of this elitist puke>>>> He has been pro-illegal immigration for a long time. He admits it is because he loves ethnic restaurant. He even has an online restaurant guide. Him playing restaurant critic.
For a great appraisal of this pos look at the first google link here>>> https://www.google.com/search?num=100&client=firefox-a&hs=t4L&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=steve+sailer+tyler+beans&spell=1&sa=X&ei=WBKiUpCeEcuNkAfn24DgBA&ved=0CCoQvwUoAA&biw=1902&bih=969
If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny to bring up that importing more workers and illegal aliens won't help lower paid employees. Obama and the leftist elite know this, but they are playing the card of importation for political reasons.
For years economists and others have worshiped the false god of productivity. What we are seeing is productivity’s end game. Karl Marx might have written on this.
http://shanfaraa.com/2012/08/marxism-and-robots/
“(Oh, some north eastern states require them).”
Huh? Oregon is hardly in the Northeast and New Jersey is the only state in the Northeast that doesn’t have self serve.
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Tyler Cowen is in the autistic spectrum. Either he self admitted it or others have said so. This is how an allegedly brilliant economist is pro-open borders at the same time he sees computers-robots making millions unemployed like never before.
He has no cognitive disconnect on this. Why? Autism...mild form. Some say half of Silicon Valley is autistic. Mild form same as libertarians might be inclined towards....All about self. No loyalty to a nation.
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