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It is interesting that LTC Bateman has thrust himself into the national political debate this way. Officers on active duty are generally forbidden from doing this sort of thing, so one wonders if he received special dispensation to publish this article. As he is stationed in D.C., the natural speculation is that he is doing so with the blessings of the administration.

If West Point paid this guy as a Historian, they should get their money back. As it is, he only seems to make a mediocre propagandist.

1 posted on 12/05/2013 5:34:34 PM PST by marktwain
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32 posted on 12/05/2013 5:55:20 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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Molon lave, Master Bateman. Let’s see what you’ve got.


33 posted on 12/05/2013 5:56:09 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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I will provide some personal observations, take them for what they are worth. First, a few disclaimers. I was a career infantry officer, serving for 25 years with command experience at the Lieutenant, Captain, Lieutenant Colonel, and Colonel level. I am a combat veteran, and I was an Assistant Professor at West Point. In 1994, shortly after I retired, I went to Bosnia as part of a White House study to determine what to do to train and equip the Bosnian and Croatian forces to bring a military stalemate to the Balkans. Myself, and the other retired officers on this mission were sent because the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs would not agree to a military team given the upcoming military mission of IFOR that might compromise our neutral stance.

I have run across a number of Bateman’s ilk over the years. They are well educated, smart, and masters of their craft at the theoretical level. They are not, generally, very good soldiers primarily because they do not really like soldiering at the retail level. It’s pretty nasty down there, cold nights, wet days, miserable food, and people shoot at you. They prefer the more lofty perch of academia and they peddle their limited military experience as augmentations to their CV. But, they are academics, and pose academic solutions to military problems. Liberals in Battle Dress is the best way to describe them.

I mention my experiences in Bosnia because it was there that I saw first hand the efforts of the Yugoslav Army to disarm the populace. They were quite familiar with how the Nazis had done this, and simply implemented the Nazi plan. The Croats and the Bosniacs would have done the same thing, but they didn’t control the Army, so were held powerless to counter what happened. Thousands were safely rounded up and slaughtered once the populace was disarmed. World history is replete with similar examples.

Bateman would have done well in the Yugoslav Army. He would have known quite well what the Nazis had done, and we would have been eager to carry out the plan. After all, people usually voluntarily comply, so no shooting is required and when the day is done you can have a nice meal with a good wine, sleep in a warm bed, and have your pick of the comely local women. That’s Bateman’s kind of military operations.

I don’t care much for these types.


34 posted on 12/05/2013 5:56:50 PM PST by centurion316
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For those who care, the traitor can be reached at R_Bateman_LTC@hotmail.com (somehow it is not displaying right, so use cut and paste).

I don’t plan to contact him. There is no point in using words with those who have sold their souls; all we can do is prepare to deal with their actions. I do not want to see what will happen to the free world if he gets his way and only criminals and the government (will there even be a difference in a disarmed liberal country?) are armed.


35 posted on 12/05/2013 5:59:52 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Despite our best efforts, liberals still manage to infiltrate an otherwise honorable profession.

Beware...when CW-II starts, we all know on which side they will be.


38 posted on 12/05/2013 6:01:52 PM PST by Da Coyote
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Well Benedict Arnold was in the military too.


40 posted on 12/05/2013 6:07:59 PM PST by RginTN
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Here is the FR thread linking to and discussing the LTC Bateman Esquire article: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3097923/posts

My take: low life gun grabber bucking to make O6 with a political promotion. He has violated his oath to preserve and defend the Constitution.


45 posted on 12/05/2013 6:14:03 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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He was given clearance from the top. This is scary stuff.


47 posted on 12/05/2013 6:15:43 PM PST by SC_Pete
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This sort of stupid attitude is why he is only a Lt. col.


48 posted on 12/05/2013 6:18:03 PM PST by wjr123
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He is quite old tobe in the armed forces and is quite a bit overweight (320?) So I think he retired and currently resides in London.

His arguments are wrongbut the most striking error is statement that murder rate with guns in the US is 10.3 per 100,000. The last numbers for 2012 are 3.9 per100,000. A huge error and one which calls into question his expertise and scholarship skillset.

This piece is poorly reasoned and he may wish to avail himself of “The Federalist Papers” as he may find some enlightening insights in this new source of information.


49 posted on 12/05/2013 6:20:16 PM PST by buffaloguy
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***The Second Amendment only protects a well regulated militia, he argues.***

Bunkum. Before the Civil War, the SCOTUS ruled, in the Dred Scot Vs Stanford that one of the rights that black people would be the RIGHT TO GO ABOUT ARMED WHEREVER THEY WENT.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0060_0393_ZO.html

“It would give to persons of the negro race, who were recognised as citizens in any one State of the Union, the right to enter every other State whenever they pleased, singly or in companies, without pass or passport, and without obstruction, to sojourn there as long as they pleased, to go where they pleased at every hour of the day or night without molestation, unless they committed some violation of law for which a white man would be punished;
and it would give them the full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might speak; to hold public meetings upon political affairs,
and to KEEP AND CARRY ARMS wherever they went.”

After the Civil War and the freeing of the slaves, a new definition of the 2nm Amendment was needed to keep guns out of black people’s hands, so they came up with the “militia” rule and a “Collective right” definition.


50 posted on 12/05/2013 6:20:51 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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The 2001-2002 Military Fellows:
(l-r standing) Lt. Col. Renwick Payne ANG, Lt. Col. Patrick Kelly USA, Lt. Col. Mark Brilakis USMC, Lt. Col. Kevin McLaughlin USAF, and Maj. Robert Bateman USA,
with CSIS President Dr. John Hamre (seated).

If politician Lt. Col. Robert Bateman was worth a crap, the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF would have purged him out of the military, also.
At least now we know what TRAITOR Robert L. Bateman looks like.
52 posted on 12/05/2013 6:21:19 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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Lt. Col. Robert Bateman (Major as pictured, roughly 2002, CSIS Military Fellow)

Always good to attach a face to...

On a more personal note: Now I understand why soldiers are now disarmed during visits by ranking military & civilian leaders in-theater...

54 posted on 12/05/2013 6:24:05 PM PST by logi_cal869
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Now it starts, just like with the police, the most important value to the military will become whether they go home safe and sound at night, not whether they protect the people who are paying them for protection.


57 posted on 12/05/2013 6:26:46 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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This guy is a disgrace to the US Army. If you read the comments section to his article, Bateman occasionally responds to other comments like all snarky, arrogant liberals do. He thinks he is better than everyone else and only certain trusted people, like himself, should ever be armed. He is a total Stalinist, Obamabot suck-up. MOLON LABE.


61 posted on 12/05/2013 6:37:20 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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“Officers on active duty are generally forbidden from doing this sort of thing, so one wonders if he received special dispensation to publish this article. As he is stationed in D.C., the natural speculation is that he is doing so with the blessings of the administration.”

He’s figured out the fast track to general in today’s America.


62 posted on 12/05/2013 6:38:12 PM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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Only an idiot would think that the Bill of Rights exists to protect the governments ability to be armed.

Another name on the list.


64 posted on 12/05/2013 6:55:37 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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It’s time to talk about guns and the Supreme Court.”

I've got a better topic for "Bateman": It's time to talk about Ft. Hood, the Justice Dept., Eric Holder, and why that bastard Hasan is still soaking up building heat.

66 posted on 12/05/2013 7:05:30 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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Better interpretation of the 2nd Amendment:

A standing military being needed for a viable nation, this country will have one; notwithstanding, the people retain the right to own and responsibly use the same weapons as that military.


68 posted on 12/05/2013 7:09:56 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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At least Benedict Arnold was a general.


71 posted on 12/05/2013 7:38:24 PM PST by Studebaker Hawk (These geeks are a dime-a-dozen. I'm looking for the man with the dimes. Freddy Blassy)
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