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Under the Hammer: will the mainstream media finally vet Obama?
Rhino Times ^ | 11/21/13 | John Hammer

Posted on 12/01/2013 4:19:40 AM PST by Libloather

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To: pepsionice
can any of the networks or major newspapers slip back into investigative journalism in 2016?

I'd bet that the books and stories are already written!

21 posted on 12/01/2013 5:38:59 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Obama is a proven liar, an admitted liar, an unrepentent liar.)
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To: ronnie raygun
This is NOT a liberal/conservative thing. There is a very powerful shadow government in this country.

Transparent government is a must in a free country. Take a look at a speech John Kennedy gave at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel on April 27, 1961. It is shocking. I believe Kennedy was warning Americans of this shadow government and I also believe this is why he was assassinated. Take a gander. Apologize in advance for the length of post, but y'all should check this out.

President Kennedy:
“The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.”
For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence—on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Abbreviated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YafZkjiMpjU
Long version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8bkye4lt7o

22 posted on 12/01/2013 5:43:13 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: Libloather

Good read, but seems to discount that to vet Obama now would be to expose themselves. They would be suffering an even deeper credibility problem (hard to imagine) than “The Won” is. Like ALL Leftists, they will circle the wagons and try to weather it out - high rate of success for 50 years or more, so no reason to change tactics now.


23 posted on 12/01/2013 5:43:14 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Libloather

If it helps Hillary they will. They will completely discredit Barry if that’s what it takes to make Clinton look like a moderate.


24 posted on 12/01/2013 5:44:22 AM PST by Oratam
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To: All
We know all about past presidents' military service, including
Bush’s record in the Texas Air National Guard, and
confidential records WRT how often he made it to roll call....
but nothing about Obama.


25 posted on 12/01/2013 5:45:05 AM PST by Liz
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To: Standing Wolf

“’journalists’ won’t tell the truth, but historians will. It’s going to be ugly.”

I disagree. Historians are committed to Revisionist History. They’re teaching that democrats were responsible for all civil rights actions, that Thanksgiving was thanking the Indians (not God), that the KKK were evil Republicans (they were democrats), etc. Obama will come out spelling like a rose — an American Christian genius — none of which he is.


26 posted on 12/01/2013 5:45:05 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's free." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Libloather

“Why is there no curiosity by the mainstream media about this man who has been president for more than four years and still has more than three left in the White House?”

Mr. Hammer needs to pull his head out and realize that
they do know. They know and they know what it means to
them. They know he’s a ruthless lowlife jug-eared lying
scumbag. They know he’s a two-bit fraud. They know because
he is one of them. The mainstream media is nothing but a
bunch of Obamas, run by a bunch of Obamas and owned by a
bunch of Obamas.

The media created Obama, in their own immage
without it he wouldn’t exist.
Obama is the true face of the MS media, he is exactly what
they made him too be.


27 posted on 12/01/2013 5:47:39 AM PST by Slambat
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To: Libloather

The article title somehow assumes the mainstream media is not one in the same as the DNC’s public relations department.


28 posted on 12/01/2013 5:47:49 AM PST by fso301
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To: Libloather

Bush bought his grades. OK, I just made that up, but that’s about as much as we’ll ever get from the MSM when it comes to “vetting”.


29 posted on 12/01/2013 5:47:53 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: MayflowerMadam

“I disagree. Historians are committed to Revisionist History.”

No kidding look what they did with that lying, womanizing
meth addicted John F. Kennedy.


30 posted on 12/01/2013 5:50:47 AM PST by Slambat
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To: Libloather

In answer to “Why doesn’t some journalist investigate”?

Perhaps they value their career and life. And, there is no record. It has already been cleansed.


31 posted on 12/01/2013 6:07:47 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Libloather
Even the comrades at MSNBC can find dependable guest:

MSNBC Guest: Obama White House ‘Most Hostile to Media in U.S. History’

32 posted on 12/01/2013 6:15:04 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: pepsionice

8 Obummer operatives already went to Indonesia years ago, bribed the Indo officials and removed/destroyed all archived records of him there at the Direktorat Jenderal Imigrasi di Jakarta


33 posted on 12/01/2013 6:15:04 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Libloather
but we don’t even know that about him, other than what Obama Bill Ayers says.

fixed
34 posted on 12/01/2013 6:26:48 AM PST by stylin19a (Obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: Libloather

Frankly, what evidence do you have that he was born in Hawaii? That photoshopped “thing” he touted is obviousy faked. And “African” listed as his dad’s race? REALLY? In 1961 the word NEGRO would have been used. “African” doesn’t tell you what color a person is. Person could be a white south african. And let’s not forget his PUBLISHER had that he was born in “Kenya.” Yeah, she just happened to pull that particular country out of her rear end when she got it wrong.


35 posted on 12/01/2013 7:05:26 AM PST by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: Libloather
Simple answer to the questions is NO.

1) They are Fellow Travelers and will use any means necessary to hide any Socialist, Liberal, Communist or, like the current POTUS, Marxist ties and ideologies they can.

2) It's easier to get paid being a tool for the propaganda machine than actually doing classical journalism.

3)They like being able to create news and not be bored with reporting the news or investigative journalism, unless of course, it will destroy the reputation of any conservative or Repukelican.

4) They don't vet because they won't get invites to the swanky cocktail party that may be their chance to quit being reporters and become government employees or hired by some lobbying firm.

36 posted on 12/01/2013 7:06:11 AM PST by cashless (Obama told us he would side with Muslims if the political winds shifted in an ugly direction. Ready?)
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To: cashless

Hopefully when O’Bastard loses all cred with the sheeple, over the next three years, the MSM will go down with him.


37 posted on 12/01/2013 7:08:29 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Liz
"O's late night visit to Hillary resulted in her dropping out----probably negotiated the SoS job.......if she dropped out, she got the job. " Let's not forget the probable step of him having enough dirt on her to land her in jail, or bury public credibility to get her to fold. They both travelled in the same Chicago sewers.
38 posted on 12/01/2013 7:09:22 AM PST by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: twister881

Agreed. The media cannot afford to look into Obama’s past now. If they did it would be admission that they led us astray for the last 7 years.


39 posted on 12/01/2013 7:15:51 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Libloather

I think Obamacare will kill Hillary in 2016. The media’s meme that it’s time for a woman won’t fly with the memory of Hillarycare.


40 posted on 12/01/2013 7:19:19 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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