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I Want an American Baby! Chinese Women Flock to the U.S. to Give Birth
TIME ^ | 11/28/2013 | By Hannah Beech

Posted on 11/28/2013 9:38:31 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: cloudmountain

A few Koreans, mostly older ones who remember the bad days, still eat dog too.

Do NOT google that. I warned you.


41 posted on 11/29/2013 2:55:59 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: cloudmountain

I meant “Korean Dog Market” as what not to Google

trust me, don’t


42 posted on 11/29/2013 2:56:37 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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Wealthy Chinese couples paying $120,000 for American surrogates to increase
their children’s chances of getting into an Ivy League school

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2515712/Wealthy-Chinese-couples-paying-120-000-American-surrogates-increase-childrens-chances-getting-Ivy-League-school.html#ixzz2m4u9hsXC

Chinese couples are paying $120,000-$140,000 to have their children born through American surrogates

With the fourteenth amendment, all children born on U.S. soil are automatically citizens

Since surrogacy is illegal in China, this is one of the only options for mothers who want
to have biological children but can’t carry to term


43 posted on 11/29/2013 2:57:00 PM PST by deport
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To: cloudmountain

“They don’t seem to take care of their yards.”

If you see a really great looking house with a perfect yard that is in foreclosure, it is probably a white american. If you see who will be buying that same house, it will probably be a chinese american.

If you see someone driving a fabulous new car dressed to the nines and who has a car payment over 1000 a month, that person is probably a white american.

If you see someone dressed like a homeless person buying a new car with all cash, that person is probably chinese.

Yeah, there are differences. I am abc (american born chinese), I pay cash for my cars, cash for my houses, my yard does look bad, I graduated from Stanford and have zero debt. I like my way better.


44 posted on 11/29/2013 3:08:22 PM PST by staytrue
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To: staytrue
“They don’t seem to take care of their yards.”
If you see a really great looking house with a perfect yard that is in foreclosure, it is probably a white american. If you see who will be buying that same house, it will probably be a chinese american.
If you see someone driving a fabulous new car dressed to the nines and who has a car payment over 1000 a month, that person is probably a white american.
If you see someone dressed like a homeless person buying a new car with all cash, that person is probably chinese.
Yeah, there are differences. I am abc (american born chinese), I pay cash for my cars, cash for my houses, my yard does look bad, I graduated from Stanford and have zero debt. I like my way better.

I bet you have a butt since you are American born.

Also a stereotype: a Stanford graduate ALWAYS and ALWAYS mentions that (s)he went to Stanford within the first 15 minutes of a conversation. YOU brought up the Stanford Cardinal pretty fast there, Mr. Staytrue.

Go Bears!

45 posted on 11/29/2013 4:58:19 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: GeronL
I meant “Korean Dog Market” as what not to Google
trust me, don’t

I won't. I trust you.
I have absolutely NO curiosity about something so ominously labeled "Korean Dog Market."

Major yuck.

46 posted on 11/29/2013 5:00:42 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: GeronL
The yards of a lot of hispanics and blacks and rednecks could be called dumps too

No doubt. But THEY do it because of SLOTH.
The Chinese do it for cheapskate, not sloth.

47 posted on 11/29/2013 5:01:55 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: GeronL
I don’t understand why Chinese want babies born in the US, are we sending WIC and EBT’s to China?

1. The Chinese would infinitely prefer to have their babies...I mean BABY BOYS to be born here because of money. The Chinese, I was told by various Chinese friends and acquaintances, believe in two things and ONLY two things in this life: LUCK and MONEY.

2. The Chinese come here in DROVES to get a MAJOR LEAGUE cheap, cheap, cheap education. Then, they go back to China with their American degree. I get annoyed ONLY because I don't see ANY "giving back" to us in any way, shape or form. They are major league, grade AAA, blue ribbon takers.

3. They also come here to buy homes houses here in the USA. They buy houses together with other members of their family. It's a good deal for them. They come and go from the city/country back to China, as they like, with that HOUSE they own in the USA as their ticket to return to the USA.

4. I don't know what WIC and EBT mean.

There is an urban myth that the Chinese won't live where there are black people. Hah. The Chinese would buy property in HELL if it promised to be a good investment.

There are Chinese communities, built around restaurants, all over the world. I don't blame them. My husband and I visited China in 1981, just after it opened up to tourists. China was as good as the Chinese could make it at that time and it was the sh..ts, the absolute pits!
I simply CANNOT imagine how dreadful it was 1000 years ago. SHUDDER!!

48 posted on 11/29/2013 5:19:22 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: SeekAndFind

Gotta read the 14th Amendment

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Political jurisdiction does not equal geographic jurisdiction. If you are from France visiting here you can get a traffic ticket but not be charged with treason. There is a difference.


49 posted on 11/29/2013 5:27:45 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: cloudmountain

WIC and EBT are references to welfare programs


50 posted on 11/29/2013 5:29:33 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: cloudmountain

1,000 years ago anywhere was probably pretty bad


51 posted on 11/29/2013 5:30:10 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: cloudmountain

I guess you don’t know this but in 2007 there were hundreds of American dogs sickened and killed by Chinese-made pet food contaminated by melamine.


52 posted on 11/29/2013 5:46:11 PM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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I guess you don’t know this but in 2007 there were hundreds of American dogs sickened and killed by Chinese-made pet food contaminated by melamine.

NO!! I didn't know that.

From the Internet: Melamine is an organic base and a trimer of cyanamide, with a 1,3,5-triazine skeleton. Like cyanamide, it contains 67% nitrogen by mass and, if mixed with resins, has fire retardant properties due to its release of nitrogen gas when burned or charred, and has several other industrial uses. Melamine is also a metabolite of cyromazine, a pesticide. It is formed in the body of mammals that have ingested cyromazine. It has been reported that cyromazine can also be converted to melamine in plants.
Melamine combines with cyanuric acid and related compounds to form melamine cyanurate and related crystal structures, which have been implicated as contaminants or biomarkers in Chinese protein adulterations.

Why do we bother with the Chinese? Is EVERYTHING always about money?

53 posted on 11/29/2013 7:53:52 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: GeronL
1,000 years ago anywhere was probably pretty bad

True.

I've always believed that a good way to judge a culture is to see how their women and girls were treated.

The Chinese routinely put males before females. Girl babies were routinely disposed of. Even the girls of well-to-do families had their feet bound so that their feet would be little "petals" instead of real feel. Owwww!!!

I can't think of too many other cultures that so badly treated their females.

1000 years ago, 1013

Sweyn Forkbeard, King of Denmark, having invaded England, is proclaimed as King within the Danelaw.

December 25 – Sweyn is proclaimed King all of England in London, forcing Æthelred the Unready to flee to Normandy.

Henry II, Holy Roman Emperor, signs a peace treaty at Merseburg with Duke Bolesław I Chrobry of Poland who recognizes him as overlord.

Henry II, Holy Roman Emperor, gathers an army at Augsburg to begin his second Italian military campaign.

The Jews are expelled from the caliphate of Córdoba.

The Poles withdraw from Pomerania (approximate date).

Kaifeng, capital of China becomes the largest city of the world, taking the lead from Córdoba in Al-Andalus.

The largest of the Four Great Books of Song, the Song Dynasty Chinese encyclopedia Prime Tortoise of the Record Bureau (which had been compiled since 1005), is completed in 1,000 volumes of 9.4 million written Chinese characters.

If I had my choice I would have lived in Europe back then, rather than Asia, India, Africa, the Americas or Australia.

54 posted on 11/29/2013 8:06:49 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: GeronL

Food stamps.


55 posted on 11/29/2013 8:07:44 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

For a long time the Roman Empire (it lasted for a LONG time) treated women as property, daughters all had the feminine version of the fathers name, even if there was more than one daughter.


56 posted on 11/29/2013 8:12:15 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL
For a long time the Roman Empire (it lasted for a LONG time) treated women as property, daughters all had the feminine version of the fathers name, even if there was more than one daughter.

Ah, the Roman Empire. We won't see the likes of them again, will we? They DID last for a LONG time. I didn't know that about the daughters. But, then, learning about the Roman Empire is a life's work, isn't it?

57 posted on 11/29/2013 8:17:08 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Those rules changed. The Roman Empire changed a lot from beginning to end.


58 posted on 11/29/2013 8:20:17 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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