Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

How President Obama Is Killing Jobs
Heritage Foundation ^ | November 15, 2013 | Jim DeMint

Posted on 11/15/2013 11:38:57 AM PST by 1rudeboy

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-44 next last
To: 1rudeboy

We don’t have any job problem that MADE IN AMERICA won’t fix.


21 posted on 11/16/2013 11:03:25 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ex-snook

Oh, really? How many zeroes are in 17 trillion? I forget.


22 posted on 11/16/2013 11:05:35 AM PST by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy

Really we don’t have any job problem that MADE IN AMERICA won’t fix.


23 posted on 11/16/2013 11:11:43 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: ex-snook

And I can think of 17 trillion reasons that is incorrect.


24 posted on 11/16/2013 11:15:51 AM PST by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy

You only need one reason to show that MADE IN AMERICA is the way. Americans are working, paying taxes, buying homes, buying goods and off government support.


25 posted on 11/16/2013 11:23:19 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: ex-snook
No, that's retarded. We could be at full employment (while "making in America'), and none of the results you identify would stop our government from spending money it doesn't have. If you can't see this simple fact, you are part of the problem.
26 posted on 11/16/2013 11:26:47 AM PST by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: ex-snook

I agree 100%.

America has been sending jobs out of our own country for an entire generation.

We need jobs. American jobs. Bring back US jobs now.

17,000,000,000,000.00 and growing rapidly.

China now exports more, than America.

That is also growing rapidly.


27 posted on 11/16/2013 11:28:57 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network

Oh sorry:

17,000,000,000,000.00 (in American debt) and growing rapidly.


28 posted on 11/16/2013 11:36:55 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network

Wow, that’s a lot of zeroes—how many jobs do you think should cover the deficit? Can we do it if we create a billion new jobs? And at what salary?


29 posted on 11/16/2013 11:37:17 AM PST by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Toddsterpatriot
Ok, now I'm curious, and I need a math expert:

1. assuming a balanced budget,
2. assuming there is no Social Security deficit,
3. assuming the national debt is $17T, and
4. assuming no churn in the job market,

how many jobs need to be created right away, at a marginal tax rate of 40%, in order to pay off the national debt in, say, ten years?
30 posted on 11/16/2013 11:49:17 AM PST by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

oops . . . forgot—assume a salary of $45K/year.


31 posted on 11/16/2013 11:54:45 AM PST by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy

That depends on what sort of jobs they are:

If the jobs are low-end such as making toothpicks out of logs, a billion new jobs would probably be what is required.

A billion new jobs, at $10,000 / years. That comes to maybe $10 trillion in Chinese wages. More here.

That is real money, and would put a significant bump in our foreign exchange deficit.

But we don’t hire a billion people. A couple hundred million, is more like it all total, since the shipment of American jobs overseas began a generation ago.

However: Apple is now just for example, making their new iPad in China. Millions of them. Tens of millions. Perhaps hundreds of millions of them.

That sort of job brings in a (whole lot more) money. Which China incidentally also taxes I believe.

So there are:

1) No American employees to speak of.
2) A whole bunch of Chinese employees.
3) The revenue is all spent in China. (to the best of my knowledge, again).

Repeat that, for thousands of former US companies...

America is heading down the tubes, and both parties are just sitting on the ride, until it won’t run anymore.

I say bring back American jobs.

Bring back American jobs.

Just a quick reminder:

$17,000,000,000,000.00 in debt, and growing rapidly.


32 posted on 11/16/2013 11:59:16 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network

I’m not looking for mealy-mouthed words such as “probably,” “significant,” “more like it,” “perhaps,” “whole lot,” and “best of my knowledge.”


33 posted on 11/16/2013 12:05:04 PM PST by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy

I just put together that example, from your data of a billion jobs sent to China.

Gimme a break already. You pulled a number out of thin air, and I provided an answer back with the same precision.

So what about the sample? I believe the data is valid.

If not, please point to where.

Thanks.


34 posted on 11/16/2013 12:09:56 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network
Back up a little bit, cowboy. You think our national debt crisis can be solved by "bringing jobs back." I merely am asking how many will solve the problem.
35 posted on 11/16/2013 12:12:51 PM PST by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy

Sure.

We are currently spending our way to ruin.

We were a very rich, very powerful and very successful country until a generation ago.

When were started sending jobs to other countries.

Now we are not so rich, not so powerful and not so successful.

We are rapidly in fact, going into significant debt.

Just saying.

We are spending our countries own fortune.

When it’s gone, it’s gone.

That’s it.


36 posted on 11/16/2013 12:16:40 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network
And what I hope to illustrate to you (but I'm not optimistic) is the incongruity of claiming that our jobs have been sent to other countries and that our government is spending our way to ruin. Our government is spending its way to ruin, regardless. Raising taxes won't help, and hasn't helped.

Either the money is there, or it's not . . . that worker with flies up his nose in some other country is not responsible for our government racking-up $17T of debt, or our budget deficit, for that matter.

37 posted on 11/16/2013 12:28:18 PM PST by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy

Well we disagree then.

I see a clear link between shipping millions of American jobs overseas, and our current mess.

I say we need to bring jobs back to America.

We’ll just have to disagree on this, I suppose.

Good talking with you though.


38 posted on 11/16/2013 12:32:28 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy
Obama is better described as The Job Abortionist - he prevents them from ever being born.

Entrepreneurs are saying "To hell with it!" at record rates as a direct result of this Administration's attitudes toward small business.

39 posted on 11/16/2013 12:36:17 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network

Well, I say that automobiles should be cheaper, since I currently in the market for one. My pipe-dream won’t cure the national debt, either . . . and I’m not running to the government to help me.


40 posted on 11/16/2013 12:37:00 PM PST by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-44 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson