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Maryland Air Force Sgt. Shoots Home Intruder: Charged With Murder
Save America Foundation ^ | November 6, 2013 | Fred Brownbill

Posted on 11/09/2013 2:28:27 PM PST by Alaska Wolf

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To: Gen.Blather
-- Apparently they don't have a stand your ground law. --

He was in his house. Merry-land has no duty to retreat for a person lawfully in a home. In the home, it is "stand your ground."

The use of deadly force is always conditioned on reasonable belief, but deadly force is allowed in Merry-land even to prevent burglary.

Seems to me this prosecutor is off his rocker, similar to Angela Corey in Florida. Anti-self-defense.

41 posted on 11/09/2013 3:54:57 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Guenevere
-- Is this the one the press is calling ...'the next Trayvon Martin shooting'...? --

That label has been attached to the case where a 19 year old black female was shot outside of a home in a suburb of Detroit, Michigan.

42 posted on 11/09/2013 3:59:22 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

“Seems to me this prosecutor is off his rocker, similar to Angela Corey in Florida. Anti-self-defense.”

There should be some protection against that. I was disappointed that Governor Scott didn’t stop the Zimmerman prosecution. But he just let it happen. Zimmerman could have ended up in prison, which would be a death sentence for him.


43 posted on 11/09/2013 4:00:35 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: snoringbear

Me, too, here in TN.


44 posted on 11/09/2013 4:02:05 PM PST by libstripper (Asv)
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45 posted on 11/09/2013 4:04:24 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: wiggen

I disagree. It’s a point of interest that needs to be investigated.

What if the headline was “ex-roommate shot and killed by homeowner” or “Husband shoots and kills friend of his wife”

Just because we believe innocent until proven guilty doesn’t mean that we have to believe the victim is guilty until the husband is proven guilty.

What triggers my interest is what is *NOT* said. There is no disavowing any love affair, there is no mention of any money or drugs being owed, or any business venture gone awry, how long after being asked to move out did this shooting occur? Weeks? Months? Days? Hours? How much partying did the wife do with the intruder and his friends? Were drugs involved? Did the wife have any contact with the intruder between being asked to move out and the shooting?

Those are probing questions that we expect to be asked and answered, either by the media or police.


46 posted on 11/09/2013 4:09:30 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Alaska Wolf

Sounds like a DA that got his panties in a wad and wants to show some muscle. Well, the AF could respond and refuse to allow prosecution.


47 posted on 11/09/2013 4:13:17 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: Gen.Blather

“Apparently they don’t have a stand your ground law. “

The only States that seem to have those are the ones that first had a “Run like a chicken” law in the first place.


48 posted on 11/09/2013 4:14:25 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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Maryland is a notch below the perps it harbors.


49 posted on 11/09/2013 4:14:28 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Yes. The article doesn’t tell us the whole story. Reads like a press release from his defense attorney.

I think the DA suspects foul play. Perhaps he suspects the victim was lured there by the Husband for whatever pretext to extract revenge for whatever transgression, perceived or otherwise.


50 posted on 11/09/2013 4:17:52 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Alaska Wolf

the act of grabbing the gun in the first place is “bizarre behavior in itself,”
***Not as bizarre as the behavior of the bloodsucking prosecutor.


51 posted on 11/09/2013 4:20:32 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Gene Eric

It’s true. Maryland sucks and the Wilmington bridge doesn’t take visa and the ‘Dunk’in Donut’ sign that tells you there is one at the Havre de Grace exit doesn’t tell you it’s really 8 miles back the way you came, but on a side road.


52 posted on 11/09/2013 4:25:02 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo

The wife should not have had a man living in her house while her husband was deployed. The actions of the trespasser may or may not suggest more to their relationship. However, once he forced his way into the house, then the husband was justified in using deadly force.


53 posted on 11/09/2013 4:25:25 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: SandRat
Libs probably want him to have hollered HALT three times and have fired a warning shot in the ceiling.

No, the libs don't want you to have a weapon, to fire into the ceiling in the first place.

54 posted on 11/09/2013 4:26:12 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: CodeToad

“The only States that seem to have those are the ones that first had a “Run like a chicken” law in the first place.”

As I recall Florida required you to retreat. But it simply isn’t possible to retreat under some circumstances. The legislature tried to make it easier to protect yourself. When the law was passed the newspapers went nuts. It was going to be the Wild, Wild West. No such thing happened. The crime rate is down 32%.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/mar/23/dennis-baxley/crime-rates-florida-have-dropped-stand-your-ground/


55 posted on 11/09/2013 4:28:27 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: 3Fingas

You said it a lot better than I did.


56 posted on 11/09/2013 4:32:46 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Alaska Wolf

I believe strongly in the Castle Doctrine.

So, in this case it appears the state will probably claim a relationship existed between the dead man and the Seargent’s wife. They will attempt to portray him as a jealous husband that took advantage of a situation to off a former “lover” of his wife. It will all be false, but it might be bought by a jury.

He will not be portrayed as a man defending his home and wife. Unless the Seargent and wife can show a threat by this guy....other than attempting to enter his home...I fear a jury is going to side with the state. This is not...under the full circumstances (as reported in the article - of course questionable) a clear cut case of home defense. Why did he answer the door with a firearm on his person? IF he feared who was at the door, why didn’t he call the police? IF the guy then kicked down the door...it would be a CLEAR case of B&E with NO possibility of doubt. As it is, under that state’s goofy laws, he looks bad.

As I stated, I believe in the Castle Doctrine, and I have NO problem with him answering a door with a loaded pistol on his person. However, it looks like he violated that state’s laws...and his wife’s alleged former relationship hurts the case of it being a “home invasion” for robbery. I fear for this man.


57 posted on 11/09/2013 4:33:13 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Usagi_yo

I have seen the situation before several times while in the military. While the husband is deployed, the wife begins to have a house guest. 6 months later, husband is about to return so the wife kicks her house guest out. House guest thought there was more to their relationship, sometimes for good reason, sometimes because said guest is wacko. House guest returns and gets into it with newly returned husband. Much unhappiness all ensues around . Moral of this story, don’t do this and don’t live in Maryland.


58 posted on 11/09/2013 4:39:09 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: Kevmo

The victim showing up at 2:00am and breaking the door trumps that, not only is that bizarre, but much more relevant.

But yea, if it was 2:00 in the afternoon, I would say grabbing the gun is certainly interesting, but doesn’t reach the description as bizarre.

He’s a soldier coming back from overseas. Yea, he’s going to shoot to kill, and yes his first instinct is a violent defense.


59 posted on 11/09/2013 4:40:58 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: 3Fingas

Then you mean ‘house guest’ in the polite sense. Sounds like a sexual relationship.

Hey, and I know what you mean, When in the Navy I had a friend who had 6 girls and only 2 of them were his. She couldn’t use birth control because she was a Jehovah witness or something. I would finish the story, but I don’t like saying bad things about dead people.


60 posted on 11/09/2013 4:47:02 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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