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'Double Down': How Obama beat the birthers in 2012 (Barry "finds" souvenir BC w/footprint)
Today Books (NBC) ^ | November 4, 2013 | Mark Halperin and John Heilemann

Posted on 11/07/2013 8:58:53 AM PST by Seizethecarp

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To: Seizethecarp
“I grew up here in Chicago,” Obama told the crowd at Navy Pier

Lie #302,473,201,954,048,782,193,492.

21 posted on 11/07/2013 9:31:37 AM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Next month a grainy, very suspicious cell phone recording will be released...


22 posted on 11/07/2013 9:34:18 AM PST by GeronL
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To: GeronL

A layered pdf of a Kinkos’ fax of that phone call will be released.


23 posted on 11/07/2013 9:35:23 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: MeganC
Watch for Dunahm's Wiki page to be 'updated' to show the new date of death.

Just like his Facebook page had the wrong (or right?) age on it for the longest. Just like he wished himself happy birthday weeks before Aug. 3. Just like he can't remember his anniversary or his daughters' birthdays.

24 posted on 11/07/2013 9:35:57 AM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: philled
Of course he found it! He would have found it earlier except it was in a box labeled “Rose Law Firm Billing Records” so he didn’t think to look in there...

It was located in the trunk of a car that was totaled in a tornado.

25 posted on 11/07/2013 9:36:50 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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26 posted on 11/07/2013 9:38:40 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: MeganC

Mother, Grandmother, It’s all the same to the man with no past and no witnesses to say what they knew.


27 posted on 11/07/2013 9:38:48 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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“It’s okay, the incompetent Marxist Saudi-agent apologist was born legit in the USA, so everything’s fine.”

Oh, okay then.


28 posted on 11/07/2013 9:41:01 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (It wasn't this cold before global warming)
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To: Venturer

Where’s the birf certificate he wrote about in his autobiography? He said in that text that he was rummaging through old boxes and ran across it.

Same story, new dates?


29 posted on 11/07/2013 9:41:32 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

Chauncey Gardiner couldn’t find his birf certificum either!


30 posted on 11/07/2013 9:46:23 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: skeeter

and he was still raised as a commie America hating muslim.


31 posted on 11/07/2013 9:47:45 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: a fool in paradise

LOL. he gets a pass on about everything. The fact he’s not for Obamacare any longer must have him befuddled.


32 posted on 11/07/2013 9:50:17 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I wonder how long before people can buy fake enrollment papers so they can pretend to have health insurance when they file their taxes?


33 posted on 11/07/2013 9:50:43 AM PST by GeronL
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To: Seizethecarp

great line from the article. “What confounded him about the problem, beyond its absurdity, was that there was no ready solution. Although Trump was braying for his original long-form birth certificate, officials in Obama’s home state were legally prohibited from releasing it on their own, and the president had no earthly idea where his family’s copy was. All he could do was joke about the topic, as he did at his final event of the night: “I grew up here in Chicago,” Obama told the crowd at Navy Pier, then added awkwardly, “I wasn’t born here—just want to be clear. I was born in Hawaii.””

So the author just so happens to miss the obvious in what he wrote. Hawaii could have released his long form BC had he simply given them permission. I bet he had no idea what is on that document and thats why he refused.


34 posted on 11/07/2013 9:54:55 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen

Clown Prince nobama needs to be waterboarded to get to the truth of the matter. Who is he? Who is behind him?


35 posted on 11/07/2013 10:00:25 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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42 CFR 435.407—Types of Acceptable Documentary Evidence of Citizenship
§ 435.407
Types of acceptable documentary evidence of citizenship.
For purposes of this section, the term “citizenship” includes status as a “national of the United States” as defined by section 101(a)(22) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(22)) to include both citizens of the United States and non-citizen nationals of the United States.
(a) Primary evidence of citizenship and identity. The following evidence must be accepted as satisfactory documentary evidence of both identity and citizenship:
(1) A U.S. passport. The Department of State issues this. A U.S. passport does not have to be currently valid to be accepted as evidence of U.S. citizenship, as long as it was originally issued without limitation. Note: Spouses and children were sometimes included on one passport through 1980. U.S. passports issued after 1980 show only one person. Consequently, the citizenship and identity of the included person can be established when one of these passports is presented. Exception: Do not accept any passport as evidence of U.S. citizenship when it was issued with a limitation. However, such a passport may be used as proof of identity.
(2) A Certificate of Naturalization (DHS Forms N-550 or N-570.) Department of Homeland Security issues for naturalization.
(3) A Certificate of U.S. Citizenship (DHS Forms N-560 or N-561.) Department of Homeland Security issues certificates of citizenship to individuals who derive citizenship through a parent.
(4) A valid State-issued driver’s license, but only if the State issuing the license requires proof of U.S. citizenship before issuance of such license or obtains a social security number from the applicant and verifies before certification that such number is valid and assigned to the applicant who is a citizen. (This provision is not effective until such time as a State makes providing evidence of citizenship a condition of issuing a driver’s license and evidence that the license holder is a citizen is included on the license or in a system of records available to the Medicaid agency. The State must ensure that the process complies with this statutory provision in section 6036 of the Deficit Reduction Act of 2005. CMS will monitor compliance of States implementing this provision.).

(b) Secondary evidence of citizenship. If primary evidence from the list in paragraph (a) of this section is unavailable, an applicant or recipient should provide satisfactory documentary evidence of citizenship from the list specified in this section to establish citizenship and satisfactory documentary evidence from paragraph (e) of this section to establish identity, in accordance with the rules specified in this section.

(1) A U.S. public birth certificate showing birth in one of the 50 States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico (if born on or after January 13, 1941), Guam (on or after April 10, 1899), the Virgin Islands of the U.S. (on or after January 17, 1917), American Samoa, Swain’s Island, or the Northern Mariana Islands (after November 4, 1986 (NMI local time)). A State, at its option, may use a cross match with a State vital statistics agency to document a birth record. The birth record document may be issued by the State, Commonwealth, Territory, or local jurisdiction. It must have been recorded before the person was 5 years of age. A delayed birth record document that is recorded at or after 5 years of age is considered fourth level evidence of citizenship. (Note: If the document shows the individual was born in Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands of the U.S., or the Northern Mariana Islands before these areas became part of the U.S., the individual may be a collectively naturalized citizen. Collective naturalization occurred on certain dates listed for each of the territories.) The following will establish U.S. citizenship for collectively naturalized individuals:

From the U.S. State Department:
Birth Certificate Requirements

All certificates of live birth that meet the U.S. State Department requirements for a certified birth certificate are accepted as proof of citizenship. Certified birth certificates must have a registrar’s signature and a seal that either is raised, impressed, embossed or multi-colored. The certificate must list the passport applicant’s full name, as well as names of the parents, the date and place of birth and the date on which the certificate was filed. The birth certificate must have been filed within one year of the individual’s birth to be accepted for a passport application.

Secondary Evidence of Citizenship

Certain hospitals issue certificates of live birth. For passport applicants who do not have a certified birth certificate, a hospital’s certificate of live birth is accepted as proof of citizenship when accompanied by additional documentation. In addition to the hospital-issued certificate, passport applicants must provide either a delayed birth certificate, issued after the first year of life, or a letter of no record noting that no birth certificate can be found. The State Department suggests presenting these documents with other early records, such as a baptismal certificate, early census record or a medical record of post-natal care as additional documentation.

Other Acceptable Citizenship Documents

The State Department accepts certain other documents as proof of citizenship in the event that a passport applicant’s certificate of live birth does not meet the department’s requirements for a certified birth certificate. A previously issued and undamaged U.S. passport, consular report of birth abroad, naturalization certificate or certificate of citizenship are accepted in lieu of a certificate of live birth, or birth certificate, when applying for a passport.


36 posted on 11/07/2013 10:02:50 AM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: a fool in paradise

It’s just another prefabricated lie.

To think that the President would come to his home alone in Detroit and start rummaging through old boxes at ten o’clock at night and just happen to run across this is total BS. again with the peeing down your leg and saying it is raining.

Of course if he looked for this tomorrow he wouldn’t be able to find it. Misplaced it.


37 posted on 11/07/2013 10:07:35 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: wideawake; Seizethecarp
(1) I do not believe for a second that Barack Obama was born overseas. The logistics are preposterous.

What logistics? You know who his mommy is?

38 posted on 11/07/2013 10:11:56 AM PST by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: Seizethecarp
Ann Dunham. Dunham had died seven years earlier, but Obama hadn’t sorted through all her things.

And we should believe that, because...?

39 posted on 11/07/2013 10:13:56 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: a fool in paradise
I wonder if he found some crack rocks and his favorite crack pipe? I'm sure some of his drag queen outfits were in there too.
40 posted on 11/07/2013 10:14:45 AM PST by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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