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Darrell Issa to introduce immigration bill (House GOP begins Amnesty push next week...)
Politico ^ | 10/23/13 | SEUNG MIN KIM

Posted on 10/23/2013 6:32:16 PM PDT by jimbo123

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To: mowowie

In my town of 60,000 2 illegals pled guilty to sex with 11 and 12 year old girls.

Insane.


241 posted on 10/25/2013 4:27:34 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Amnesty Navigators?


242 posted on 10/25/2013 4:30:40 PM PDT by cardinal4
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To: cardinal4

something like that


243 posted on 10/25/2013 4:32:08 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Oh, I believe it! I’m surprised there are no obamaphone navigators or EBT navigators!
*shakes head* how did it ever get this bad?


244 posted on 10/25/2013 4:35:44 PM PDT by cardinal4
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To: cardinal4

I dunno, they spend tons of tax dollars to advertise ObamaPhones and ebt’s


245 posted on 10/25/2013 4:36:43 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: cardinal4

I am sure there are PLENTY of obamaphone navigators and EBT navigators out there, More than we can imagine nontheless......IN 125 LANGUAGES!!!


246 posted on 10/25/2013 4:58:53 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: mowowie

I know what you mean, mowowie and don’t disagree.

My point about “bringing them out of the shadows” was politicians want to do that as a first step. I don’t want them taking any steps unless it’s to ship them back like you indicated.

No more rewards for people breaking the law.


247 posted on 10/25/2013 7:51:12 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: cradle of freedom
300 million formerly free people are being led into slavery and tyrrany by an elite group of about 200 pudgy lazy politicians

how can this happen

my greatest fear is that this will open the floodgates to Islam> Issa is an Islamic,

curiously, IIRC some militant Jewish defense league guy named Irv Rubin got arrested in an entrapment sting for trying to eliminate Issa back in the 1990s .....what if Irv Rubin was right all along and not just a total nutcase after all

248 posted on 10/25/2013 8:26:47 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: jimbo123

I’m confused. Don’t we have immigration laws? We must, because our ancestry were once immigrants and they became ciizens. What does it currently take for someone to become a citizen? I hear the dems say that obamacare is the law of the land and we must follow the law. Don’t we have immigration laws that we must follow? Or do we just choose a law we want to enforce and don’t on another? Why can’t an immigrant just follow the law already on the books to become a citizen? But then again don’t some already do?


249 posted on 10/26/2013 8:17:32 AM PDT by GTM01
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To: deadrock

His thinking is at least allegedly to trick illegal immigrants to give them selfs up.

If I could ask him a question it would be this.

What good is there in knowing where they will be for a time if you can’t go and get them during that same time?


250 posted on 10/26/2013 9:00:18 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Drill Thrawl

What good is it to give temporary “amnesty” to illegal aliens in exchange for some information about where they will be what their name is or whatever else when you can’t do anything with that information during the limited time it is correct?

Washington is going to have to recognize that she doesn’t have the man power or on the ground local knowledge to find illegal aliens. She has to let & encourage our States to take care of the domestic enforcement job.

Its a lot harder for an outsider to pick-out other outsiders than for a local. The INS needs merely to first verify then deport the folks our State & local authorities identify & pick up.

I realize you can’t pass such legislation thou the senate and president, but you can rhetorically support and encourage State’s to carry out their own such intrastate programs within their spheres. Recognizing that Washington Still has the protective if not punitive bottle neck of deciding whom they accept and reject for deportation.

The only real problem with this system is the same problem with each and every plan that Liberal’s don’t like. It gets accused of racism, no matter how baseless and absurd that false claim is. You should tell them Washington is Just as capable of racism as any state, and in this case has just as much power to stop it as it ever did.


251 posted on 10/26/2013 9:36:25 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: GTM01

The RINOs and their donors want more H1B visas to bring over more indentured code monkeys from India.

And the RATS want more Mexicans to turn into welfare and ObamaCare leeches and permanent RAT voters.

Laws don’t matter to both parties.


252 posted on 10/26/2013 11:21:04 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Monorprise

Temporary Amnesty = Permanent Amnesty = Citizenship = Permanent DemocRAT Voter


253 posted on 10/26/2013 11:22:23 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

I’m just saying I don’t understand how offering them amnesty will do anything but encourage them to cross in greater numbers to further inflate the low skill labor pool.

What we have here on this issue is a fractured collation.

And we republicans got the short end of this sick somehow on both sides. The low income democrats abandoned their attachment to jobs in favor of party loyalty, and our business owners are at odds with us now because of our successful measures to drive illegal immigrants out in some states and efforts in others.

We are suffering from a messaging campaign failure here just like the one we suffered from on the Budget this October. We can do nothing if we cannot reach people.

1: We must get all the Democrat’s email lists and news letters and be sure that our message gets out to theses people.

2: We must formulate a coherent strategy for each and every state and if possible customized to each individual and group.


254 posted on 10/26/2013 12:07:22 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: GTM01

In 2012, a total of 757,434 persons were naturalized as new U.S. Citizens. The leading countries of birth of these new citizens were Mexico (102,181), the Philippines (44,958), India (42,928), the Dominican Republic (33,351), and the People’s Republic of China (31,868). The largest number of persons naturalizing lived in California (158,850), Florida (100,890), and New York (93,584).
Those three states alone (California: 55, Florida: 29 and New York: 29) account for 42% of the 270 electoral votes needed to elect a president.
The Democrats’ strategy is obvious.
In 2012, 1,031,631 immigrants became Permanent Legal Residents (Green Card holders). 146,406 of the new Permanent Legal Residents were from Mexico.
The data is from the Department of Homeland Security’s “Yearbook of Immigration Statistics.”


255 posted on 10/26/2013 1:07:14 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus
Those three states alone (California: 55, Florida: 29 and New York: 29) account for 42% of the 270 electoral votes needed to elect a president. The Democrats’ strategy is obvious.

So, tell me, why would ANY Repub want this? We're already outvoted 36%, as it is.

256 posted on 10/26/2013 1:12:22 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Jane Long

One reason is that some of the global corporatists (such as those in the agribusiness industry) who fund the Republican Party like having cheap sources of labor in order to maximize profit. Legal cheap labor provided by new arrivals is less complicated than illegal cheap labor.
The only President to date to actually sign an amnesty bill into law was Ronald Wilson Reagan in 1986.
From a purely political point of view, some (and I repeat SOME) in the Republican Party have made a judgement call that not supporting immigration reform hurts the party’s chances more with Latinos than supporting it will.
In 2008, Obama got 66% of the Latino vote and in 2012 that increased to 71%.


257 posted on 10/26/2013 2:14:45 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

and Reagan said it was a mistake too

ask the RINO’s how many votes the corporations have?


258 posted on 10/26/2013 2:17:17 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Nero Germanicus
Funny that Republicans think this "cheap source of labor" is going to keep picking lettuce, etc.

Once they've been given Amnesty, they'll quickly be on to bigger and better things (like after the mid '60's amnesty). Or, at least half of them will. The other half will continue to sponge off of our welfare system.

Then we can repeat the cycle...as we'll need more "illegals" to come in to do the jobs the *former* illegals won't do.

Again, why would ANY Repub want this? It's insane.

259 posted on 10/26/2013 2:22:56 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: GeronL

Unfortunately the mistake was not corrected in the three remaining years of the Reagan Administration, the four years that followed of the Bush #41 administration or the 8 years of the Bush #43 administration.


260 posted on 10/26/2013 3:17:21 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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