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NH Store Clerk: “I Just Wanted To Go Home To My Family,” Fired For Self-Defense
michaelgraham.com ^ | 10/16/13 | Michael Graham

Posted on 10/16/2013 6:02:14 AM PDT by raccoonradio

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To: DoodleDawg

Screw the policy manual. If you work doing a job where your life may be threatened, you should carry. Period.

You can always get another job but not another life.


21 posted on 10/16/2013 6:26:29 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: HomeAtLast

The State cannot tell you that you are able to carry.

A private employer is well within his rights to tell you not to bring guns to work. In fact, the owner’s insurance company probably voids any thefts or damages if the employee pulls out a gun and shoots someone.

I know it sounds bad, but it is there to protect the employees and customers. Having worked at a bank where two people were shot dead in the 80’s, I can tell you that it is better to just hand over the money and be done with it.

If this is your home, the story is different.

I have to say that I probably wouldn’t have fired this guy, but I certainly would have suspended him.


22 posted on 10/16/2013 6:26:34 AM PDT by Vermont Lt ( 1-800-318-2596, Mr President.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

But the owner does not come in and review the video every day.

The guy did what he thought was right. But he must not be all that bright. I know that carrying was not allowed at any place I’ve ever worked. And I have worked around a lot more money than this guy had in his convenience store.


23 posted on 10/16/2013 6:28:29 AM PDT by Vermont Lt ( 1-800-318-2596, Mr President.)
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To: Vermont Lt

May have been company policy to report incidents—also prob surveillance video was running.

Ooh, as a matter of fact—there was.

http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/clerk-fired-after-pulling-gun-on-wouldbe-robber/-/9857858/22454840/-/154utkdz/-/index.html


24 posted on 10/16/2013 6:29:05 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: DoodleDawg

And if you are fired with cause, NH is horrible at unemployment cases. This guy is out on the street. Period.


25 posted on 10/16/2013 6:29:30 AM PDT by Vermont Lt ( 1-800-318-2596, Mr President.)
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To: raccoonradio
NH Store Clerk: “I Just Wanted To Go Home To My Family,”

Wow! He could be a cop!

26 posted on 10/16/2013 6:29:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: raccoonradio

..though Ch 9/WMUR’s report only shows a still from that video. “Bear” was his boss and dist. manager did fight for him to keep his job but it was a corporate decision


27 posted on 10/16/2013 6:33:18 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Red in Blue PA
You can always get another job but not another life.

I agree 100%. He broke their policy and got fired for it. It may not be fair but the important thing is that he likely saved himself from death or injury in doing so. He's going to be around to hold that grandchild he's expecting. No job is worth missing out on that.

28 posted on 10/16/2013 6:33:33 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: raccoonradio

Bear SAID his boss, that should say


29 posted on 10/16/2013 6:33:41 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Vermont Lt

“A private employer is well within his rights to tell you not to bring guns to work.”

Oh, I quite agree. Nevertheless, ultimately some judge decides, or some convocation of lawyers agree to settle.

So he has a case.


30 posted on 10/16/2013 6:36:59 AM PDT by HomeAtLast (The original Tea Party entailed a willingness to do without some tea.)
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To: raccoonradio

Oooh, lookie:

“In this situation, the clerk was presented with a deadly weapon. He was in close proximity to the suspect when the deadly weapon was displayed to him. The clerk, from the information I have, took the appropriate action in terms of how he felt threatened, in presenting the firearm.”

Someone’s gonna win a lawsuit.


31 posted on 10/16/2013 6:37:13 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Justa

No, that’s just establishing a viable self-defense claim, should the state decide to prosecute (which they doubtless won’t). The wrongful termination suit is a nonstarter. Freedom of association, it can work for you and it can work against you. Tough break, but at least he’s alive to complain about it.


32 posted on 10/16/2013 6:50:19 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: raccoonradio

Another reason to avoid Shell businesses.


33 posted on 10/16/2013 6:58:47 AM PDT by Anton.Rutter
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To: raccoonradio
Actually it is a public service for all of us who live in New Hampshire to know that the management of most Shell gas stations prohibits their clerks from carrying a firearm. That makes it more likely that a robbery will occur, and shows that the management and owners of the Shell gas stations mentioned in the article apparently have little regard for the safety of their customers or employees, and are in their own way creating a dangerous situation.

The best strategy for the public is to avoid such an unsafe gas station, but should anyone suffer from a robbery at a Shell gas station they'll know that the owners may well have contributed to their injury by establishing a policy which is likely to increase the risk of robbery at their business.

34 posted on 10/16/2013 6:59:57 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Anton.Rutter; All
Yes. Also: the robber had a knife, the clerk a gun. Robber fled...
Song parody from years back:

"This land's not your land, this land is my land
I've got a shotgun, you haven't got one
If you don't get off, I'll blow your head off..."

35 posted on 10/16/2013 7:12:53 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

From the picture on the thread, I think he could find immediate employment with the Duck dynasty folks if he’s willing to relocate to Louisiana :-)

I’d encourage folks to boycott the Shell stations in NH owned by that franchise and let it be know why.


36 posted on 10/16/2013 7:43:55 AM PDT by JoyjoyfromNJ (everything written by me on FR is my personal opinion & does not represent my employer)
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To: raccoonradio
If I’m a robber with a knife, I’m headed to that Shell station. Management has done the hardest part of my job for me.

And as a free citizen there's not enough force in the universe to make me EVER buy gas from this insane Shell station...

37 posted on 10/16/2013 8:05:49 AM PDT by GOPJ (Brieitbart sent me... Freeper newfreep)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Only cops get to go home to their families. The proles can die/leftist think

Seems to me Nouria Energy is more worried about their liability exposure than the safety of their employees; not exactly a "leftist" orientation.

38 posted on 10/16/2013 8:22:08 AM PDT by papertyger ("refusing to draw an inescapable conclusion does not qualify as a 'difference of opinion.'")
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To: Vermont Lt
I can tell you that it is better to just hand over the money and be done with it.

That assumes you are done with it after handing over the money, but that's the robber's choice, not yours.

You assume too much about the polite intentions of the crook.

I think it is a lower form of life robbing convenience stores than robbing banks. A family member was shot just for the hell of it by a guy robbing a convenience store.

39 posted on 10/16/2013 8:51:10 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: DoodleDawg

“Under New Hampshire law employers can fire you for any reason and without notice so he wouldn’t have grounds for a suit. But he’s alive and that’s the important part. Finding another job as a convenience store clerk probably won’t be that hard, but I suggest he read the policy manual very carefully before accepting it.”

Maybe so, but the locals should be boycotting all the Shell stations owned by these turds. That would hurt more than any individual lawsuit. Just put them out of business.


40 posted on 10/16/2013 9:22:39 AM PDT by vette6387 (i)
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