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Study: Wind Power Costs Taxpayers Billions of Dollars
Townhall.com ^ | October 15, 2013 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 10/15/2013 11:32:48 AM PDT by jazusamo

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I have traveled in areas of TX, OK, KS, NE, IL, MA and perhaps several other states with wind power turbine installations. What surprised me was the amount of time and the percentage of the turbines that were inactive. I remember never seeing any spinning turbines when flying over IL. There is no viable storage method to store generated energy when wind is sufficient for operation, to provide for time periods when it is not. Truly a stupid, costly idea providing payback to the corrupt political power taking the taxpayers into un-survivable debt, along with many other subsidized debacles.


21 posted on 10/15/2013 2:18:45 PM PDT by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44 (22 Yr, Navy Vet))
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To: jazusamo

I know it was the article writer. Permit my rants on inaccurate usage of numbers. ;)


22 posted on 10/15/2013 2:31:20 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Okay, permitted. :-)


23 posted on 10/15/2013 2:32:54 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

For some of us, knowing math is a blessing.

For many others, math is a curse.


24 posted on 10/15/2013 2:36:21 PM PDT by edboock (The United States Constitution ©1787, All Rights Reserved)
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To: Huskerfan44

Agreed...One of the first wind turbine installations I was familiar with was the Tehachapi Pass in So CA over thirty years ago. Though it was fairly new it was the same way then.


25 posted on 10/15/2013 2:36:36 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo

Yes, but our hydroelectric here in the NW is not deemed to be “green.”


26 posted on 10/15/2013 3:08:20 PM PDT by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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It is time for TTU to study the effects of these unsightly propellors on the weather downstream of these monstrosities.

Energy is removed from the moving air mass and converted into electrical energy — work is being done just like in an expander/generator — downstream air should be cooler than upstream, etc. What effect does it have on ground level temperatures?


27 posted on 10/15/2013 3:13:31 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I don't say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: angry elephant

Man, you got that right.

The enviro-nazis would have every dam not only in the NW but the whole country blasted to smithereens if they had their way.

Those dams are a blight on the eco-system, ya know. :-)


28 posted on 10/15/2013 3:17:06 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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Correct me if I’m wrong but those prices of $25-35/MWh price range, FLAT over a 25 year period you quoted don’t include taxpayer subsidies and tax credits that the companies receive, do they?

No, the prices are what the utility pays the wind farm. The wind farm investor then seeks the $0.023/kWh PTC from the Feds against their quarterly tax liability to enhance the "after-tax" return of the project over an average 20 year period.

Much like the price of oil or other forms of energy don't include all the subsidies those industries receive - it's baked into what you pay but at the investor level.

Again, a tax "credit" is not the same as actual taxpayer money spent by Mordor. It's tax revenue forgone, which Mordor thinks was theirs to begin with anyway.

29 posted on 10/15/2013 7:41:53 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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