Image from ICR article.
See the link for the entire photo of this closeup, and for a detailed sketch of the rock layers.
Posted on 10/01/2013 8:22:29 AM PDT by fishtank
Image from ICR article.
See the link for the entire photo of this closeup, and for a detailed sketch of the rock layers.
If you take the drive north on Hwy 191 out of Vernal, UT heading up the east side of the Uinta Mountains to the Flaming Gorge you’ll see many rock formations like the pick you posted where the rock has been cut out for the road. Really awesome to see!
They had a name for the drive called “Rock of Ages” or “Rock Formations of The Ages” or something like that.
Wish I could find some pics of it online.
good job
The article is phony from beginning to end.
To start, geologists are not divided over the origin of sedimentary rocks. Some sediments clearly do undergo soft-sediment deformation: it can happen in near-surface layers with water present, but not at depth or with very great thicknesses. This has been known for well over a century. The point is, one can tell the difference. The case shown in the nice picture is certainly not soft-sediment deformation..
The whole Creationist movement, which I used to tolerate because of the apparent sincerity of it proponents, no longer should merit any patience. I don’t even regard Creationists as particularly Christian.
Let me put it simply: the Bible is not a textbook of geology. It never was intended to be; and it is plain ignorant to read it that way. It is not a physics manual, a chemistry book, a cookbook, an investment guide, or any of the other things people try to read into it.
It is a record of history, but always from a point of view. That view is the message, and is key. If people stuck to the simple but profound truths of the Bible, but left the dinosaurs (which aren’t even there) out of it, we would be reading things much more clearly.
Regards,
My favorite bumper sticker reads:
In the beginning God created evolution.
You have done even a greater Job!!!!
This ‘fossil’ ship’s bell were found recently about 50 metres (170 feet) off the coast of Victoria, Australia. These metal bells have become firmly encased in solid rock. The specimen is currently in the possession of the Maritime Archaeological Unit of Heritage Victoria, where it is being desalinated. Most of us have been so ‘evolutionized’ by our culture that things like rocks or fossils are immediately associated with millions of years of slow processes. It does not often register with the general public that there is no scientific reason to believe that rocks take millions of years to form—it all depends on having the right ingredients. Of course, these ship’s bells are not millions of years old. They come from the wreck of the wooden sailing ship Isabella Watson, which sank off the coast of Victoria in 1852. The bells are firmly cemented in a rock matrix. Found in one metre of water, they have been highly polished by surf action.
A bell encased in stone would be a dead ringer.
Exactly what kind of rock is that? Victoria, Australia is a highly volcanic area. If that’s igneous rock and not sedimentary, then there’s some “bait and switch” going on.
I am sorry you think that way.
The Bible is not a physics textbook, but the physics are true.
The Bible is not a chemistry book, but the chemistry is true..... etc etc.
However,
The Bible says:
“These things I write to you, that you may know that you have eternal life, you who believe in the name of the Son of God.”
1 John 5:13 (DRV)
Do you trust in Christ alone for the payment of the penalty for your sin?
•As you can see, the bells were partially surrounded by solid rock, which could only have formed in less than 150 years, not millions of years. •Fossil shrimp. In 1994, scientists were studying the fossils of shrimp that were found in the stomachs of some very well preserved fossil fish found in Brazil. The scientists found a way to create similar fossil shrimp in only 4-6 weeks. The article reporting this research said: In only a few weeks, they managed to mimic a mineralisation process that takes millions of years in nature’ Yet the article has shown that such preservation does not need millions of years. Common sense indicates that whatever the process, it had to be rapid for the tissues to escape decay. •Clock in the rock. Found in 1975 near the South Jetty at Westport, Washington, this clock mechanism was found partially encased in solid rock, just like the bells from the ship. They also found seashells in the rock that surrounded the clock. Were clocks around millions of years ago?
•Fossil fence wire. This role of fence wire was discovered by an 11 year old girl at Eighty Mile Beach in the north of Western Australia. The role of wire is just over 2 feet in diameter and weighed 165 pounds. When they cut the rock open, they found the roll of modern day Number 8 fencing. This was the same type of wire used in the area between 1920 and 1970, which meant that the rock had formed around the fence in only 20-70 years, not millions.
•Fossil hat. The soft felt hat of a miner was found in a mine in Tasmania. It had been covered with water for more than 50 years. The minerals in the water were absorbed into the felt material of the hat turning it hard as stone. What once was a soft hat had become a hard hat. •Petrified ham, bowler hat and flour. On June 10, 1886, Mt. Tarawera on the North Island of New Zealand erupted. The eruption lasted for 4 hours. Several villages were destroyed by the lava and ash. The small town of Te Wairoa was one of those villages as it had been buried in ash. About 60 years they started excavating some of the buildings. Among the items they found that had been buried in the ash for all these years was a ham, a bowlers hat, several sandwiches and a bag of flour. All of them were as hard as stone as they had all been petrified by the ash in as little as 60 years. http://creationrevolution.com
The examples don't help explain why there is not a good answer to this admittedly good question.
The dating of rock whether igneous or sedimentary uses the same assumptions.
the II peter reference is indeed t Noah’s Flood
Copy/paste deserves a link.
The issue is not the "dating" of the rock, but the claim that the bell encased in the rock is evidence that the theories about how long it takes for sedimentary rock to form are wrong. If that's not sedimentary rock, then it isn't evidence of that at all. The geology of the area it was found suggests that it's quite likely it's igneous (volcanic) rock, and that could have easily formed around that bell in a matter of minutes.
“...evidence that the theories about how long it takes for sedimentary rock to form are wrong.....”
absolutely not true, I disagree!!!
“.. it’s igneous (volcanic) rock, and that could have easily formed around that bell in a matter of minutes...”
that may be true, but unlikely, as heat from molten rock would have damaged the bell (soft metal).
I have written the MAUH for more information, If I hear, I try to contact you.
“..There has been no volcanic activity in Australia in the past few hundred years, and no major eruption since Mt Gambier, on the border of South Australia and Victoria, 4500 years ago...”
http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/volcmap.html#2
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