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Live Thread: Obama to Make Rose Garden Statement on Syria, 1:15 p.m. EDT 8/31/13
Via Twitter ^ | Saturday, August 31, 2013 | Jay Carney

Posted on 08/31/2013 9:16:19 AM PDT by kristinn

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To: Art in Idaho

What has US influence done in the Middle East...given us the disastrous Arab Spring.

One thing, with Putin running things there, he won’t hesitate to keep the Islamo-Fascists in line. Russia fears them even more than we do (well actually Obama encourages them).


521 posted on 08/31/2013 11:51:52 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 1035rep
You have a point friend ... it maybe is a lose / lose for all those in D.C. Was a definite lose / lose for all the world if zer0 had attacked and still could be. zer0 is not one to be trusted by the words out of his mouth.
522 posted on 08/31/2013 11:52:20 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: austinaero

OBAMA BUILT THIS!


Brilliant!! (Could be your new tag line)


523 posted on 08/31/2013 11:53:57 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Errant; FReepers
sorry friend ... no credit is due me. Am saying this because your post came directly to me. There are FReepers who have been on this from day one. I was not. Man FReepers do deserve credit for this day. I do not. My Thanks though.
524 posted on 08/31/2013 11:55:26 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Yaelle

He turns Cameron’s humiliation and his own humiliation into a victorious noblesse oblige: Let the people (Congress) decide.

1) He couldn’t move those poll numbers-—9% for a Syria strike
2) He couldn’t move UN, NATO, or world opinion for a US strike on Syria
3) He needs money for his Syria war
4) He knew the results of a Syria strike were “lose, lose, and lose”
5) Now he gets to blame Congress
6) Now he can continue to covertly arm AlQaeda and MB in Syria


525 posted on 08/31/2013 11:55:52 AM PDT by thouworm (A lawless oligarchy has replaced our Constitution-based govt. Their motto: Catch us if you can.)
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To: dfwgator

but others get what they deserve as well and didn’t vote for it or deserve it.


526 posted on 08/31/2013 11:56:11 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Syrians are prancing and cavorting in celebration, and Iran is crowing, “told you so!”


527 posted on 08/31/2013 11:56:43 AM PDT by HomeAtLast (Galt's Gulch: it isn't Valley Forge.)
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To: kristinn

Boner and McConnell just crapped their pants,they are either going to have to tell the Marxist NO we will not be Al Quedas Air force or fold one more time to this incompetent buffoon.
Anyone taking bets on which one they choose?


528 posted on 08/31/2013 11:57:16 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Sequoyah101
but others get what they deserve as well and didn’t vote for it or deserve it.

That's life.....people always pay for others' sins.

529 posted on 08/31/2013 11:58:02 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kabar
So Obama being Obama decided to shift the buck to Congress. He wins personally no matter what Congress decides. The big loser is US prestige and influence around the world. He has shown that the US will fold under pressure. Obama prefers to lead from behind.

All of this makes sense when one understands that Obama has no desire or intention to LEAD.

He does not act like POTUS because he does not consider himself POTUS - he considers himself a divine king. King for the express desire and purpose to destroy the United States of America and fundamentally transform the country into a third world hellhole.

All of this fits into his wrecking ball, and his religion wins while all of us lose. That's the plan being unfolded on us and the world.

Empower Jihadists and Al Qaeda, arm them so they take over the mid-east and obliterate Israel. Arm Mexican drug cartels and continue to open the borders while granting defacto Amensty to millions of them inside the US. Impose a Cloward-Piven financial collapse of the entire welfare nation. At the same time Obama emasculates the USA's standing in the world and accelerates it's collapse into oblivion.

Obama is a Destroyer - not a leader of any kind. That is not his destiny.

He wants to rule on top of our ashes building his own utopia on our carcasses.

Understand that, and everything this POS has done and is currently doing suddenly makes perfect sense. It's insidious and it's demonically brilliant. It's a major mistake to assume Obama is an idiot and does not know what he is doing. He knows EXACTLY what he is doing, which is why Congress seems incapable of even putting speed bumps in his way.

America has no clue what is being done to it right now. Not even among most Conservatives who assume Obama is an idiot.

We have an enemy regime in the White House. Might as well be Osama Bin Laden in the Oval Office, because the results are the same.

530 posted on 08/31/2013 11:58:07 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: kristinn; All

The White House

Office of the Press Secretary

STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT ON SYRIA

Rose Garden

1:52 P.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT:  Good afternoon, everybody.  Ten days ago, the world watched in horror as men, women and children were massacred in Syria in the worst chemical weapons attack of the 21st century.  Yesterday the United States presented a powerful case that the Syrian government was responsible for this attack on its own people.

Our intelligence shows the Assad regime and its forces preparing to use chemical weapons, launching rockets in the highly populated suburbs of Damascus, and acknowledging that a chemical weapons attack took place.  And all of this corroborates what the world can plainly see -- hospitals overflowing with victims; terrible images of the dead.  All told, well over 1,000 people were murdered.  Several hundred of them were children -- young girls and boys gassed to death by their own government.

This attack is an assault on human dignity.  It also presents a serious danger to our national security.  It risks making a mockery of the global prohibition on the use of chemical weapons.  It endangers our friends and our partners along Syria’s borders, including Israel, Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon and Iraq.  It could lead to escalating use of chemical weapons, or their proliferation to terrorist groups who would do our people harm.

In a world with many dangers, this menace must be confronted.

Now, after careful deliberation, I have decided that the United States should take military action against Syrian regime targets.  This would not be an open-ended intervention.  We would not put boots on the ground.  Instead, our action would be designed to be limited in duration and scope.  But I'm confident we can hold the Assad regime accountable for their use of chemical weapons, deter this kind of behavior, and degrade their capacity to carry it out.

Our military has positioned assets in the region.  The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs has informed me that we are prepared to strike whenever we choose.  Moreover, the Chairman has indicated to me that our capacity to execute this mission is not time-sensitive; it will be effective tomorrow, or next week, or one month from now.  And I'm prepared to give that order.

But having made my decision as Commander-in-Chief based on what I am convinced is our national security interests, I'm also mindful that I'm the President of the world's oldest constitutional democracy.  I've long believed that our power is rooted not just in our military might, but in our example as a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.  And that’s why I've made a second decision:  I will seek authorization for the use of force from the American people's representatives in Congress. 

Over the last several days, we've heard from members of Congress who want their voices to be heard.  I absolutely agree. So this morning, I spoke with all four congressional leaders, and they've agreed to schedule a debate and then a vote as soon as Congress comes back into session. 

In the coming days, my administration stands ready to provide every member with the information they need to understand what happened in Syria and why it has such profound implications for America's national security.  And all of us should be accountable as we move forward, and that can only be accomplished with a vote. 

I'm confident in the case our government has made without waiting for U.N. inspectors.  I'm comfortable going forward without the approval of a United Nations Security Council that, so far, has been completely paralyzed and unwilling to hold Assad accountable.  As a consequence, many people have advised against taking this decision to Congress, and undoubtedly, they were impacted by what we saw happen in the United Kingdom this week when the Parliament of our closest ally failed to pass a resolution with a similar goal, even as the Prime Minister supported taking action.

Yet, while I believe I have the authority to carry out this military action without specific congressional authorization, I know that the country will be stronger if we take this course, and our actions will be even more effective.  We should have this debate, because the issues are too big for business as usual.  And this morning, John Boehner, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell agreed that this is the right thing to do for our democracy. 

A country faces few decisions as grave as using military force, even when that force is limited.  I respect the views of those who call for caution, particularly as our country emerges from a time of war that I was elected in part to end.  But if we really do want to turn away from taking appropriate action in the face of such an unspeakable outrage, then we just acknowledge the costs of doing nothing.

Here's my question for every member of Congress and every member of the global community:  What message will we send if a dictator can gas hundreds of children to death in plain sight and pay no price?  What's the purpose of the international system that we've built if a prohibition on the use of chemical weapons that has been agreed to by the governments of 98 percent of the world's people and approved overwhelmingly by the Congress of the United States is not enforced? 

Make no mistake -- this has implications beyond chemical warfare.  If we won't enforce accountability in the face of this heinous act, what does it say about our resolve to stand up to others who flout fundamental international rules?  To governments who would choose to build nuclear arms?  To terrorist who would spread biological weapons?  To armies who carry out genocide? 

We cannot raise our children in a world where we will not follow through on the things we say, the accords we sign, the values that define us. 

So just as I will take this case to Congress, I will also deliver this message to the world.  While the U.N. investigation has some time to report on its findings, we will insist that an atrocity committed with chemical weapons is not simply investigated, it must be confronted.

I don't expect every nation to agree with the decision we have made.  Privately we’ve heard many expressions of support from our friends.  But I will ask those who care about the writ of the international community to stand publicly behind our action.

And finally, let me say this to the American people:  I know well that we are weary of war.  We’ve ended one war in Iraq.  We’re ending another in Afghanistan.  And the American people have the good sense to know we cannot resolve the underlying conflict in Syria with our military.  In that part of the world, there are ancient sectarian differences, and the hopes of the Arab Spring have unleashed forces of change that are going to take many years to resolve.  And that's why we’re not contemplating putting our troops in the middle of someone else’s war. 

Instead, we’ll continue to support the Syrian people through our pressure on the Assad regime, our commitment to the opposition, our care for the displaced, and our pursuit of a political resolution that achieves a government that respects the dignity of its people.

But we are the United States of America, and we cannot and must not turn a blind eye to what happened in Damascus.  Out of the ashes of world war, we built an international order and enforced the rules that gave it meaning.  And we did so because we believe that the rights of individuals to live in peace and dignity depends on the responsibilities of nations.  We aren’t perfect, but this nation more than any other has been willing to meet those responsibilities.

So to all members of Congress of both parties, I ask you to take this vote for our national security.  I am looking forward to the debate.  And in doing so, I ask you, members of Congress, to consider that some things are more important than partisan differences or the politics of the moment. 

Ultimately, this is not about who occupies this office at any given time; it’s about who we are as a country.  I believe that the people’s representatives must be invested in what America does abroad, and now is the time to show the world that America keeps our commitments.  We do what we say.  And we lead with the belief that right makes might -- not the other way around.

We all know there are no easy options.  But I wasn’t elected to avoid hard decisions.  And neither were the members of the House and the Senate.  I’ve told you what I believe, that our security and our values demand that we cannot turn away from the massacre of countless civilians with chemical weapons.  And our democracy is stronger when the President and the people’s representatives stand together.

I’m ready to act in the face of this outrage.  Today I’m asking Congress to send a message to the world that we are ready to move forward together as one nation.

Thanks very much.

                        END                2:02 P.M. EDT


531 posted on 08/31/2013 11:58:18 AM PDT by thouworm (A lawless oligarchy has replaced our Constitution-based govt. Their motto: Catch us if you can.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

“He is unsure he is even willing to do it unless he gets approval from congress. He should call congress in right now if he is so sure he should go into Syria.” (Your quote of Bolton)


Seriously -— the waiting until after the important vacation, etc, is what really shows Obama as a coward, not as a “government of the people” statesman! Either you believe your previous bloviating and human rights BS or you just want to hide.

Marv Albert just boxed up all his lacy panties and sent them to Obama.


532 posted on 08/31/2013 11:59:56 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: no-to-illegals
There are FReepers who have been on this from day one. I was not.

Good LUCK with using that as an excuse when they come for ALL of us! ;)

533 posted on 08/31/2013 12:00:56 PM PDT by Errant
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To: kristinn
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534 posted on 08/31/2013 12:01:38 PM PDT by RetSignman (Standing my ground against group think.)
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To: ballplayer

50 / 50 ballplayer. Time has a strange way of fabricating evidence.


535 posted on 08/31/2013 12:02:00 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Errant

LOL ... don’t worry I already have them in line waiting to load me on that cattle car.


536 posted on 08/31/2013 12:03:07 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: thouworm

I thought he originally said 20th century but the ‘official’ statement says 21st century.


537 posted on 08/31/2013 12:06:35 PM PDT by dglang
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To: kristinn
This is also a huge, humiliating climb down for Obama. He was hot to attack and found little support, so now has to wait until Congress returns.

If this were Bush, the mockery and ridicule from the media would be non-stop, 24/7. But since it is Dear Leader, this fumbling about will be spun as "gravitas", "measured restraint", "serious deliberation", and similar catchwords.
538 posted on 08/31/2013 12:07:13 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: kristinn

Oh darn, I was watching football.


539 posted on 08/31/2013 12:07:46 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: kabar

Republicans in Congress will do whatever Obama wants, and in exchange he won’t destroy their reelection efforts (NSA dirty secrets, IRS allowing fundraising, etc).

Winning elections isn’t a matter of what voters say... it’s a matter of having Obama’s approval.


540 posted on 08/31/2013 12:08:15 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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