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CATO Institute: Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President
CATO Institute ^ | Aug 26, 2013 | By Ilya Shapiro, Senior Fellow In Constitutional Studies, Cato

Posted on 08/30/2013 12:02:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Vendome
Natural Born Citizen means Citizen at the moment of Birth and nothing else.
That is what it has always meant.
YOUR position is “groundless” -— you can not present one shred of concrete testimony or evidence that proves your silly, tin-foil-hat position.
You try, your side tries, but all of your points have been shredded to pieces.
NOBODY takes birthers seriously.
Birthers are liberals, who want the Courts to decide matters over which the Courts have no Constitutional powers.
941 posted on 09/19/2013 10:36:41 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Yes, yes, yes.

You are most certainly the legend in your own mind.

I don’t think you are stupid but, age has addled more than your mind.


942 posted on 09/19/2013 10:38:38 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: EternalVigilance

So, we allow abortion on demand until there is a political will to stop all abortions?

All or nothing?

You will get NOTHING with your immoral, ignorant approach. Yes, I am calling your approach prideful, harmful and immoral.

You have absolutely nothing to show for your efforts. BTW, abortion clinics are closing at a record rate the last few years, due to SMART restrictions at the State level, which make abortion less and less profitable.


943 posted on 09/19/2013 10:39:34 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Vendome

You are being ridiculous now, with your insults.
I am very confident that your IQ at your prime would not match mine, today.


944 posted on 09/19/2013 10:41:08 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
you must be confronted every time you spout your nonsense.

Bring it on, dude. Because every time you do this I get another opportunity to point readers back to the plumb line of principle upon which this free republic, and our claim to liberty, is premised.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men..."

945 posted on 09/19/2013 10:41:55 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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To: Kansas58
All or nothing?

Life and equal protection are by definition all or nothing.

If you're not alive, you're dead. If all are not provided with the equal protection of the laws, no one's life or liberties are secure.

946 posted on 09/19/2013 10:43:41 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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To: Kansas58
BTW, abortion clinics are closing at a record rate the last few years, due to SMART restrictions at the State level, which make abortion less and less profitable.

It's never "smart" to sacrifice the very principles upon which the rule of law and your claim to liberty depend. It might look that way in the short run, but over the long haul it is national suicide.

947 posted on 09/19/2013 10:46:25 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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To: Kansas58
BTW, abortion clinics are closing at a record rate the last few years, due to SMART restrictions at the State level, which make abortion less and less profitable.

Our God-given, UNALIENABLE rights are supposed to be protected by the laws, not by travel inconvenience.

948 posted on 09/19/2013 10:49:05 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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To: Kansas58

At my Prime?

Chit! You must be really old...


949 posted on 09/19/2013 11:06:40 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Kansas58

BTW, Mr. now suddenly holier than thou.

It was you who started with the sophomoric insults.

I can do this all day long, using you as batting practice.

When you care to engage on the more substantive issue without the banal and intellectual meandering feel free to make your case.


950 posted on 09/19/2013 11:08:32 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Kansas58
Your hypothetical is absurd.

Frankly, your IQ needs to be re-evaluated.
951 posted on 09/20/2013 12:30:49 AM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: Kansas58
Well, I have a life outside of FR.
You birthers have LOST the intellectual argument.
You have LOST the political argument.
You have LOST the legal argument.

And you have long ago lost whatever mind you may have ever possessed.

953 posted on 09/20/2013 7:08:46 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Vendome
Replying to Kansas58 Vendome writes: Yes, yes, yes.

You are most certainly the legend in your own mind.

I don’t think you are stupid but, age has addled more than your mind.

I do not know what he once was, but he is currently very stupid. I can't recall ever having seen more inane and childish ranting than what this kook puts forth. The closest second place kook in my experience was "Squeeky Frome". At least SHE was kicked off Free Republic for being a kooky loon.

She's still out there ranting in internet land, but fortunately we no longer have to notice her.

Kansas58's sole argument is the fallacy of false authority. That's it. He has nothing else.

954 posted on 09/20/2013 7:15:35 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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Squeeky Frome?

OMG!!!!

I remember that loon.

Hey, I don’t mind arguing particulars but, this guy ain’t right in the head.


955 posted on 09/20/2013 9:16:03 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: EternalVigilance

Do not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

In the real world, few things and few solutions are really perfect.

So, losers like you are against anything that works.

Yes, you promote a losing strategy based on your own personal need to feel superior, which makes YOU a loser.


956 posted on 09/20/2013 10:47:48 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: DiogenesLamp

Your idiotic legal theories have less support now than you had a year ago.

You consider yourself some kind of intellectual giant, but the more people study these issues, the more they turn against you.


957 posted on 09/20/2013 10:49:28 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
Do not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Putting aside the continuous sophomoric personal attacks that have nothing to do with anything of any real importance, your argument falls apart on the idea that legislation which violates "you shall not commit murder," and "we hold these truths to be self-evident," and "to secure the Blessings of Liberty to Posterity," and "No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law," and "no State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws," is somehow "good."

After you given all that up, in the name of your "clever" strategy, what, pray tell, do you have left that argues against the practice of human abortion?

958 posted on 09/20/2013 11:08:34 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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To: Kansas58
Compared to you, EVERYONE is an intellectual Giant.
959 posted on 09/20/2013 11:30:31 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Vendome
Hey, I don’t mind arguing particulars but, this guy ain’t right in the head.

That's what I think too. We joke about this or that person being "nuts", but in this case I think there really is some sort of psychological problem.

960 posted on 09/20/2013 11:32:08 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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