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CATO Institute: Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President
CATO Institute ^ | Aug 26, 2013 | By Ilya Shapiro, Senior Fellow In Constitutional Studies, Cato

Posted on 08/30/2013 12:02:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Vendome
Well, I have a life outside of FR.
You birthers have LOST the intellectual argument.
You have LOST the political argument.
You have LOST the legal argument.
921 posted on 09/19/2013 9:32:11 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
Generals win wars by first understanding that some must die.

Well, unless they're completely heartless tyrants, they don't throw innocent babies into the line of fire to do so.

Sorry, the Constitution of the United States, the supreme law of the land, which every officer of government in this country, at every level, in every branch, is REQUIRED to swear a sacred oath to support and defend, explicitly and absolutely REQUIRES the equal protection of the right to life of every innocent person, in every jurisdiction.

As long as we don't require our representatives to live up to that absolute requirement, there is no possibility of ending the abortion holocaust. None. Zero. Nada.

922 posted on 09/19/2013 9:33:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Get over yourself.
You are not presenting a legal strategy.
You are not presenting a legislative strategy.
You are not presenting a public relations strategy.
You are presenting a pompous, pious, self-righteous and rather narcissistic formula whereby you try to claim moral superiority over others.
We are not buying it.
You have no support at all because most people know that you are in this for some kind of attention and personal glory.
923 posted on 09/19/2013 9:36:27 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
You have ZERO political accomplishments.
You have ZERO prolife accomplishments.
You have ZERO legislative accomplishments.
Nobody will listen to your advice, since you have no clue
how to make any positive gains on this issue.

Nice Alinskyite tactics.

Not really worth a reply other than to point that out.

Along with the words of Abe Lincoln on the subject:

"These communities [the Fathers of the Republic], by their representatives in old Independence Hall, said to the whole world of men: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.'

"This was their majestic interpretation of the economy of the Universe. This was their lofty, and wise, and noble understanding of the justice of the Creator to his creatures.

"Yes, gentlemen, to all his creatures, to the whole great family of man. In their enlightened belief, nothing stamped with the Divine image and likeness was sent into the world to be trodden on and degraded, and imbruted by its fellows. They grasped not only the whole race of man then living, but they reached forward and seized upon the farthest posterity. They erected a beacon to guide their children, and their children's children, and the countless myriads who should inhabit the earth in other ages.

"Wise statesmen as they were, they knew the tendency of prosperity to breed tyrants, and so they established these great self-evident truths, that when in the distant future some man, some faction, some interest, should set up the doctrine that none but rich men, or none but white men, or none but Anglo-Saxon white men, were entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, their posterity might look up again to the Declaration of Independence and take courage to renew the battle which their fathers began, so that truth and justice and mercy and all the humane and Christian virtues might not be extinguished from the land; so that no man would hereafter dare to limit and circumscribe the great principles on which the temple of liberty was being built.

"Now, my countrymen, if you have been taught doctrines conflicting with the great landmarks of the Declaration of Independence; if you have listened to suggestions which would take away from its grandeur and mutilate the fair symmetry of its proportions; if you have been inclined to believe that all men are not created equal in those inalienable rights enumerated by our chart of liberty, let me entreat you to come back. Return to the fountain whose waters spring close by the blood of the Revolution. Think nothing of me — take no thought for the political fate of any man whomsoever — but come back to the truths that are in the Declaration of Independence. You may do anything with me you choose, if you will but heed these sacred principles. You may not only defeat me for the Senate, but you may take me and put me to death. While pretending no indifference to earthly honors, I do claim to be actuated in this contest by something higher than an anxiety for office. I charge you to drop every paltry and insignificant thought for any man's success. It is nothing; I am nothing; Judge Douglas is nothing. But do not destroy that immortal emblem of Humanity — the Declaration of American Independence."

-- Abraham Lincoln, speech in Lewiston, Illinois, August 17, 1858, four days before his first historic debate with Stephen A. Douglas, Printed in the Chicago Press and Tribune.


924 posted on 09/19/2013 9:40:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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To: EternalVigilance
And you are absolutely wrong.
Babies die in nearly every shooting war.
There is always “collateral damage” in any war.
That we can not possibly save “all the babies” does not and should not prevent smart, wise, reasonable and God-fearing people from saving the babies that can be saved.
You want ALL babies to die until YOUR personal ego is stroked, by feeling SO morally superior to those of us who actually get things done.
God does not expect us to do the impossible.
Read and follow the Serenity Prayer.
You lack Wisdom.
You lack Serenity.
What you confuse as “Courage” is actually childish behavior and ego gratification.
925 posted on 09/19/2013 9:42:56 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
We are not buying it.

Ah, the royal "we" rears its head.

926 posted on 09/19/2013 9:43:03 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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To: EternalVigilance
I doubt that you got more than a dozen Freepers voting for you last time you ran.

Yes, I have every right to say “WE are not buying it”.

You state your own Moral Absolutes as if WE must follow your ignorant advice. You might not use the word “WE” but you expect “US” to follow your silly, publicity seeking nonsense?

927 posted on 09/19/2013 9:44:51 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Again, as I’ve explained to you many times, you don’t stop abortion by giving up the only moral, constitutional and legal principles that argue against it.

You have no choice, I guess, but to try to make this personal, because you have no moral, constitutional or legal argument that justifies your position. That’s quite apparent.


928 posted on 09/19/2013 9:45:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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To: Kansas58

A) Is the child in the womb a human person?

B) Does the supreme law of the land require equal protection for every person?

C) Do our representatives each swear a sacred oath before God and his countrymen to support and defend that supreme law?


929 posted on 09/19/2013 9:47:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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To: EternalVigilance
You are arrogant and wrong.
I helped pass the laws in Kansas that actually drug George Tiller into a Court room as a defendant.
YOUR side, the “no compromise” side, fought the legislation that we used to drag Tiller into Court.
We did not convict Tiller, but we DID get his 2nd opinion Doc in serious hot water, and derail her practice.
You have NO accomplishments at all on the abortion issue.
Do not even presume to tell anyone how to get things done.
930 posted on 09/19/2013 9:48:56 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

A) Is the child in the womb a human person?

B) Does the supreme law of the land require equal protection for every person?

C) Do our representatives each swear a sacred oath before God and his countrymen to support and defend that supreme law?


931 posted on 09/19/2013 9:49:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Does your position do any positive good at all?
Have you persuaded ANYONE to change their mind, with your absolutist, holier than thou attitude?
Have you had ANY training at all in how to sell an idea, or persuade people?
The only workable strategy is to “take a slice at a time” since, frankly, the PUBLIC does not agree with us on a complete ban on abortion.
The public supports a ban with exceptions.
Deal with the facts.
If we pass a ban with exceptions we will STARVE the abortion industry of the money they use to destroy good prolife politicians.
Then, MAYBE we can tighten the rules a bit.
and then a bit more.
and then a bit more.

You have no strategy at all. You think insulting people and beating your chest and being the “prolife bad-ass” and your pretentious, morally superior attitude has ever saved a single life?

932 posted on 09/19/2013 9:54:01 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

You’re the only one here acting arrogantly and insulting people. Not me. I’ve simply restated my straightforward position once again.

The Constitution, the supreme law of our land, requires equal protection for the supreme right, the right to live, of every person.

“Laws” that fail in that supreme duty assure the continuation of abortion on demand, by continuing to destroy the moral, constitutional, and legal basis for the argument against the practice of slaughtering posterity.


933 posted on 09/19/2013 10:00:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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To: Kansas58
You have no strategy at all.

Sure I do. Requiring our representatives to live up to the first and most important obligation of their oath is a strategy.

One that will at the same time not only end the heinous practice of slaughtering babies, but will cure a whole host of other governmental ills.

934 posted on 09/19/2013 10:02:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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To: Kansas58; bluecat6; TauntedTiger; Jude in WV; DiogenesLamp; Crazy ole coot

You don’t have a life outside the rest home and I’m sure the nursed don’t appreciate you using the computer past bed time.

You, are the one who is un-moored and bit touched in the head...

You argue lamer than a 3rd grader, with the intellectual depth of a dry riverbed.


935 posted on 09/19/2013 10:12:06 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Kansas58; EternalVigilance

And you have presented nothing more than groundless pronouncements.


936 posted on 09/19/2013 10:13:20 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Kansas58; EternalVigilance

Who is this “We” you speak on behalf of and from whom do you derive the imprimatur to do such?


937 posted on 09/19/2013 10:16:11 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: EternalVigilance
You insult Cruz as not being “prolife” when he absolutely is.
Your position is insulting and destructive to the cause, and you must be confronted every time you spout your nonsense.
938 posted on 09/19/2013 10:31:22 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Vendome

I have won on the NBC issue, and you have lost.

Do you really want to admit that you lost to a stupid person?


939 posted on 09/19/2013 10:33:01 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

He supports legislation that fails to provide the equal protection for every person that the supreme law of the land absolutely requires. This is clear.

That disqualifies him from receiving my support.

Who in the hell do you think you are to arrogantly demand that I violate my conscience anyway?


940 posted on 09/19/2013 10:35:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP establishment is like a dodo bird: Not too bright and on its way to extinction.)
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