Posted on 08/23/2013 5:19:37 AM PDT by Kaslin
There’s no way Detroit’s policy won’t target minorities.
“The effectiveness of this police practice, initiated by Mayor Rudy Giuliani in 1994 and continued by Mayor Michael Bloomberg, is not in doubt. The number of homicides — the most accurately measured crime — in New York fell from a peak of 2,605 in 1990 to 952 in 2001, Giuliani’s last year in office, to just 414 in 2012.”.......
If it isn’t broke, why fix it”? If there is nothing to hide (weapons in this case) then I’d suggest the “Stop and Frisk” is a GOOD thing. I’ll bet those who have been mugged would support it.
NY is not YET Detroit until they have complete black leadership in control.
That’s OK, most of the cops are black too so you won’t hear much about it.
For that matter, kinda odd how Detroit leads the nation in defensive shootings by a wide margin but you never hear about it. Seems that stand your ground and open carry are beneficial to blacks in Detroit so the left desperately avoids talking about it.
Sorry, Michael. What is it about “probable cause” that you don’t understand? This is NOT a police state in which innocent citizens have to justify their existence to a bunch of goons. Tyranny makes me safer only at the cost of my liberty.
Most of the victims of black crime are fellow blacks - people working for a living. People who are afraid to ‘snitch’... They want the thugs off the streets more than we do...
The "stop-n-frisk" policy will certainly be for the (local) majority population---
just say'n...
I agree; stop & frisk is indefensible to anyone who believes in individual rights. Giuliani lowered crime in NYC with a PC police force that simply did their jobs. They got most of the crap off the street by simply busting them for the little crimes they engaged in (turnstyle-hopping, public urination, whatever), rather than simply ignoring the smaller crimes with the excuse that there were more important crimes to deal with.
If it isn’t broke, why fix it”? If there is nothing to hide (weapons in this case) then I’d suggest the “Stop and Frisk” is a GOOD thing. I’ll bet those who have been mugged would support it.
Detroit's 1990 criminal homicides amounted to 595 cases, whereas its 2011 number was 344. On a per capita basis, the murder rate dropped from 58 cases per 100K population to 48 cases per 100K population. NYC's number went from 31 cases per 100K population in 1990 to 6 cases per 100K population in 2011.
Gun control was a “good thing” as long as it was only applied to minorities.
That’s how it was in the South, post-reconstruction.
Bye bye Constitution. It was nice knowing you. Stop and frisk: It’s for the children!
I will never welcome being stopped by the police and frisked. Its unconstitutional and free people shouldn't tolerate it. I most certainly don't want my wife and daughters being stopped and groped.
Its a finger in the dike approach to a vast cultural problem.
If there is nothing to hide (weapons in this case) then Id suggest the Stop and Frisk is a GOOD thing.
Then why have a requirement for search warrants at all?
Think of the good we could do and how much safer we'd all be if we just did away with the Constitution all together!
These tactics may do some good, but also look like some of what the Constitution was written to protect us from.
I don't think DUI checkpoints are legal, either. Same for random drug testing.
And don't get me started on the TSA pat down and grope.
“If there is nothing to hide (weapons in this case) then Id suggest the Stop and Frisk is a GOOD thing”
I agree 100%. There’s absolutely no reason anyone should have ANY rights as long as it gives us a sense of security.
Fine. If this country was suddenly deluged with a spate of suicide bombers who wore their dynamite vests under coats not plainly observable to the naked eye, and all the people caught with the vests or identified after they blew themselves (and possibly scores of other people) up were determined to be of swarthy-looking-middle-eastern ancestry, would you support stop and frisk on those individuals?
So how many of you live in Detroit?
The hypocrisy of FReepers cracks me up sometimes. Throw a tantrum about the fact that the TSA gives granny a rectal exam to avoid profiling muslims and then turn right around and pretend to be concerned about racial profiling.
Don’t like it, don’t live in those places.
Democrats want to keep minorities poor and dependent on government. Keeping their crime rate high helps to achieve their goal.
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