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‘Stand your ground’ bill in Ohio legislature rouses foes
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | August 20, 2013 | Jim Siegel and Randy Ludlow

Posted on 08/20/2013 8:48:55 AM PDT by Deadeye Division

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1 posted on 08/20/2013 8:48:55 AM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: Deadeye Division
“We don’t want folks who aren’t trained to follow innocent people around and, because of their own internal issues, decide they have the right to engage and shoot another individual.”

LOL
2 posted on 08/20/2013 8:54:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Then why do we have police?
The cops we have today for the most part wanna be military
Some Police are really good. But too many are on the job mainly because of Affirmative Actions rules


3 posted on 08/20/2013 8:56:20 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Deadeye Division

They should bring up an accompanying “Duty to Cut and Run” bill and see how many votes it gets. Force these democrats and squishy repubicans to face the principle head on.


4 posted on 08/20/2013 8:56:29 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Deadeye Division

“Members of the Ohio Legislative Black Caucus”

So, why is it that Stand Your Ground laws tend to disproportionally and adversely affect their constituents? Are they admitting that it does? Are they admitting that white people are forced to defend themselves against blacks? Do they no want white people to defend themselves against blacks? Are they telling the white people of Ohio that they want them to be easy prey fo dey hommies?

People should wonder why it’s the black politicians who are fighting this.


5 posted on 08/20/2013 8:56:46 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Deadeye Division

Of course Chief Oppenheimer is armed wherever he goes. Tell me, Chief, is an elderly person or a handicapped person supposed to attempt to flee a beat down, or should they just lie down and become a victim? Those the 2 options?


6 posted on 08/20/2013 8:57:29 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX

and he has no requirement on him to retreat.

Mike


8 posted on 08/20/2013 9:04:20 AM PDT by doublecansiter (without cartridge, load in nine times, LOAD!)
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To: Deadeye Division
“We’re creating a civilian police department here, and I don’t think that’s required.”

1. We have civilian police departments everywhere. Military police departments operate on military installations. Anyone who says otherwise is deceived, or a deceiver.

2. Police departments, both civilian and military, have been relieved by the courts of responsibility to protect citizens. Citizens must either be able to defend themselves, or surrender. Surrender is not an option for me.

3. The police are our hirelings, tasked to do certain things so we won't have to. If they, through negligence or deliberate nonfeasance, fail in their responsibilities, it is up to us, individually if necessary, to do for ourselves.

9 posted on 08/20/2013 9:04:41 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (It's been over 90 days; time to start on 2014. Carpe GOP!)
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We are all No Cursive N***

I noticed your post got pulled.


10 posted on 08/20/2013 9:06:21 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Deadeye Division

These idiots can’t pass a law that obligates me to be a compliant victim!


11 posted on 08/20/2013 9:07:44 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: ExGeeEye

Police departments are supposed to be civilian. In fact they should be part of the communities they patrol.


12 posted on 08/20/2013 9:08:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Deadeye Division

“black leaders” = pawns

more blacks used the stand your ground defense in Florida than whites.


13 posted on 08/20/2013 9:23:12 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (sue the DNC for the IRS abuse! Can RICO laws be used against the DNC?)
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To: cripplecreek

Unfortunately police departments are reactive and not proactive. I cannot afford to wait on the police to show up if I am being mugged. To me, being mugged is an intentional act of violence. There is no mistaking that.

Which means as a victim I can fight or take flight. If my attacker thinks for one minute that I may be armed and willing to blow his sorry butt away, I won.

Take that ability away from me and the attacker wins.


14 posted on 08/20/2013 9:31:00 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: G Larry
These idiots can’t pass a law that obligates me to be a compliant victim!

Actually, G Larry, they already have passed many such laws in many states; none of that, however, requires us to remain in states that infringe our right to self-defense.

15 posted on 08/20/2013 9:31:44 AM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: Deadeye Division; ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; ...

Ohio Ping


16 posted on 08/20/2013 9:34:59 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Joe Brower; MinuteGal; SoFloFreeper; left that other site; Joe Boucher; SeminoleCounty; ...

But wait, wait, wait...

WE WERE TOLD over and over during the Zimmerman Trial, that SYG had NOTHING to do with it.

And yet, the Zimmerman Trial is being used to overturn SYG in other states???

How does that 44-oz bottle of I TOLD YOU SO taste right about now?


17 posted on 08/20/2013 9:35:07 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Pining_4_TX

So if this proposal becomes law, the perps will be put on notice that their intended victims no longer have the REQUIREMENT to retreat. When retreat becomes only an OPTION, the perps will have to seriously rethink about who they look upon as victims. Their next victim may just stand their ground and insert a lead pill into the perps worthless head at high velocity.


18 posted on 08/20/2013 9:43:29 AM PDT by OHPatriot (GET OFF MY LAWN !!!!!)
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To: Old Sarge
How does that 44-oz bottle of I TOLD YOU SO taste right about now?

Don't be too surprised if they try to take away your 23-oz bottle next.

19 posted on 08/20/2013 9:49:25 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Deadeye Division

Let’s boil this down to its most basic elements: Obuma is building a civilian army, and the states are giving us permission to shoot that army.


20 posted on 08/20/2013 10:00:39 AM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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