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Why Russia Turned Against The Gays
Buzz Feed ^ | 08/02/2013 | Miriam Elder

Posted on 08/02/2013 2:37:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/02/2013 2:37:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I came to the conclusion that if today we want to resolve the demographic crisis, we need to, excuse me, tighten the belt on certain moral values and information, so that giving birth and raising children become fully valued

Traditional Catholic values. The Orthodox are close.

2 posted on 08/02/2013 2:42:45 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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3 posted on 08/02/2013 2:43:51 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SeekAndFind

Easy. They promulgate a behavior that is destructive to society on many levels. Moreover, liberals always cite “freedom” as meaning freedom to behave anyway they please, when the original meaning of “freedom” insofar as it relates to the founding laws of the land, refers to freedom from King George III’s tax collectors. Nothing more, nothing less.


4 posted on 08/02/2013 2:45:27 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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The writer refuses to entertain the possibility that there may be some merit in repudiating decadent Western practices. Bet she would not be so insistent if Putin were a militant Muslim instead of a rather cynical returnee to the Orthodox fold.


5 posted on 08/02/2013 2:45:32 PM PDT by madprof98
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Don't shortchange the biblical Evangelical Protestants. We are all about family and bearing/raising children (adopting, too.)

Many traditional Evangelicals are as staunchly opposed to artificial contraception as Catholic doctrine.

6 posted on 08/02/2013 2:45:35 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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“The writer refuses to entertain the possibility that there may be some merit in repudiating decadent Western practices.”

I received a classified FBI briefing in the mid-80’s. It said that the KGB was actively backing gay groups in its bid to undermine the American family. (Which was only one component in a much larger strategy which has apparently worked.) This wasn’t an idle statement. The FBI tracked the money and presented acceptable proof. Today, you couldn’t even talk about this in an official government briefing.


7 posted on 08/02/2013 2:54:14 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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8 posted on 08/02/2013 2:54:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Russian Orthodox Church, a deeply corrupt, reactionary, and Kremlin-loving institution”

Wow, another queer-engineered hit piece. Buzzfeed is way too predictable.


9 posted on 08/02/2013 2:57:42 PM PDT by Viennacon
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There ought to be a barf alert on this article.


10 posted on 08/02/2013 3:00:16 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: SeekAndFind
“Analyzing all the circumstances, and the particularity of territorial Russia and her survival…I came to the conclusion that if today we want to resolve the demographic crisis, we need to, excuse me, tighten the belt on certain moral values and information, so that giving birth and raising children become fully valued,” lawmaker Yelena Mizulina told Vladimir Posner, Russia’s Charlie Rose.

Vladimir Posner is still coming down for breakfast?

Back in the Cold War, he was the main mouthpiece on Radio Moscow's North American Service. He speaks accent-free American English, having grown up in New York.

11 posted on 08/02/2013 3:03:13 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: SeekAndFind

>>>The West is decadent, permissive, and doomed to orgiastic decline.<<<

I wish I could argue with this.


12 posted on 08/02/2013 3:03:45 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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"Vladimir Posner, Russia’s Charlie Rose."

Vladimir Posner...I'd almost forgotten that Cold War relic. He was an early, very articulate and well-spoken version of Bagdad Bob, smoothly dispensing the Kremlin Line on US talk shows. But the analogy works even better when reversed; Charlie Rose, America's version of Vladimir Posner As per my tagline, the analogy works for most of our punditry/presstitute corps.

13 posted on 08/02/2013 3:04:20 PM PDT by Reo (the 4th Estate is a 5th Column)
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Destructive to society? Doesn’t that make you a Socialist? Should everyone act the way society dictates?

That’s not freedom in my book. People should be free to act as they like as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others.


14 posted on 08/02/2013 3:04:53 PM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t like having to turn down the radio every time gay marriage is discussed because my kids are riding with me either. Save it for the bedroom, I don’t care to hear it.


15 posted on 08/02/2013 3:07:34 PM PDT by struggle
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“Analyzing all the circumstances, and the particularity of territorial Russia and her survival…I came to the conclusion that if today we want to resolve the demographic crisis, we need to, excuse me, tighten the belt on certain moral values and information, so that giving birth and raising children become fully valued,”

Interesting. For several years, I’ve thought that the growing acceptance of homosexuality in the “West” (moving from tolerance through acceptance, and stopping just short of a requirement), was related to demographics. Only “Western” societies have fully bought into the idea of Zero Population Growth. Accepting, and even encouraging homosexual “relationships” is one way of achieving that goal.


16 posted on 08/02/2013 3:14:30 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Destructive to society?
Yup.

Doesn’t that make you a Socialist?
Nope.

Should everyone act the way society dictates?
In sane societies they already do, without coersion and of their own free will to boot. Shared understandings through societies are powerful things. The rough edges are smoothed over by things called laws which discourage undesirable behaviors and practices. Been that way for virtually all of recorded history from the humblest neolithic village to the greatest empire.
17 posted on 08/02/2013 3:16:50 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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Perhaps some political calculation is in play, but more likely Putin is interested in his nation’s survival, and seeks to avoid having it follow in the path of America and the West’s decay into the putrid cultural cesspool that it has chosen. Makes me have much more admiration and respect for Putin. It also tells me Russia might likely out-survive America... something I never would have remotely considered a few short years ago.


18 posted on 08/02/2013 3:19:27 PM PDT by greene66
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Yes, I guess that makes sense. I was going to say that people should act morally because of religious reasons but I see that could be considered societal in nature.

I was more thinking that the state should not dictate actions of its citizens, but state is ultimately not the same as society, so..

Good points.


19 posted on 08/02/2013 3:29:02 PM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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Putin is a big fan of Solzhenitsyn.....even made “The Gulag Archipelago” required reading in Russian high schools. And Solzhenitsyn, more than anyone saw the fact that the West was dying, and the reasons for it.


20 posted on 08/02/2013 3:35:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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