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Imagine what a genuine malfunction might have cost
Overlawyered ^ | 07/26/13 | Walter Olson

Posted on 07/28/2013 11:23:11 AM PDT by AtlasStalled

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To: Nik Naym
What about throwing the car into reverse?

Wouldn't that be even better than neutral?

41 posted on 07/28/2013 4:40:26 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: gunsequalfreedom

“I have not tried turning off the key but I frequently shift into neutral when rolling down long grades (not supposed to do it because you have less control over the car but it saves gas).”

Remind us all where you drive so we avoid your environs. It’s amazing to me what some will do to save pennies at the expense of their own personal safety. Also, if your vehicle has an automatic transmission, it won’t be happy with your “coasting.”


42 posted on 07/28/2013 4:44:51 PM PDT by vette6387
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Some automatic transmissions aren't harmed by coasting in neutral. Saturns were well-known for that, they're popular among RV’ers as tow vehicles and popular among hyper-milers who make a hobby out if extracting maximum gas mileage through various driving techniques and vehicle modifications. There are quite a few others, a quick search for popular tow vehicles should provide a list.

Then, there are all the rest of the automatic transmission cars and trucks, that will be mechanically damaged by coasting in neutral. The transmission will be ruined in fairly short order from attempting to coast with it in neutral.

43 posted on 07/28/2013 4:52:10 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I raced for many years and know how to control a car. But the part about the transmission not liking it is a good point.


44 posted on 07/28/2013 5:02:16 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Okay, okay, I won’t coast down hill anymore. You all sound like my wife on a nagging Sunday afternoon...and she was right too.


45 posted on 07/28/2013 5:06:17 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: AtlasStalled

This video (by Consumer Reports) does a very good job of describing and demonstrating the very real problem that Toyota had:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZZNR9O3xZM


46 posted on 07/28/2013 5:07:40 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Cars with computer engine management system actually shut off the gas going to the engine while coasting. If you coast in neutral, gas is required to keep the engine running, so along with the other factors you mentioned, you save more on gas by leaving the car in gear.


47 posted on 07/28/2013 5:16:09 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Mrs. POF is taking a nap, so I needed SOMEBODY to nag!

Grin...


48 posted on 07/28/2013 5:46:05 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: null and void

Wrong. The first click that turns off the engine does NOT lock the wheel...Stevie666


49 posted on 07/28/2013 5:48:15 PM PDT by szweig (HYHEY!! (Have You Had Enough Yet))
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Okay, I thought Texas. But, thanks for the great job that you folks put into it. ;>)


50 posted on 07/28/2013 6:03:38 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Coincidentally, mine has taken some time off from nagging to also take a nap.


51 posted on 07/28/2013 6:30:12 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: boop

“What about throwing the car into reverse?

Wouldn’t that be even better than neutral?”

NO.

You would run the risk of causing the back wheels (or front wheels on a front wheel drive car) to lock up, rendering the car uncontrollable.


52 posted on 07/28/2013 6:32:18 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: stinkerpot65

Hyundai are great cars but still can’t shake the stigma of being the poor man’s Honda.


53 posted on 07/28/2013 6:32:50 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: dglang

Go to YouTube and watch crash tests. Amazing how the new cars hold up to the old ones. They have a comparison between a 60’s car and a new car (a smaller model new car). The driver in the 60’s car was surely dead while the new car driver would have walked away like you did.


54 posted on 07/28/2013 6:37:45 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: dglang

Go to YouTube and watch crash tests. Amazing how the new cars hold up to the old ones. They have a comparison between a 60’s car and a new car (a smaller model new car). The driver in the 60’s car was surely dead while the new car driver would have walked away like you did.


55 posted on 07/28/2013 6:37:47 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Fresh Wind

>> “Cars with computer engine management system actually shut off the gas going to the engine while coasting” <<

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I have five vehicles with ‘computer’ engine management systems, and none of them do that.


56 posted on 07/28/2013 7:06:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: null and void

>> “Of course, if you do turn off the ignition, your steering wheel locks in whatever direction it happens to be pointing at that moment.” <<

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You can do better than that.

It takes two clicks and placing the shift in park to lock the steering.


57 posted on 07/28/2013 7:10:21 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Nik Naym; boop

>> “What about throwing the car into reverse?”

“Wouldn’t that be even better than neutral?””

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“NO.

You would run the risk of causing the back wheels (or front wheels on a front wheel drive car) to lock up, rendering the car uncontrollable.” <<

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Nonsense!

There is no car on the road today that will actually go into reverse before the output governor pressure falls to zero.


58 posted on 07/28/2013 7:14:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; ProtectOurFreedom; Moltke; Nik Naym; szweig

Older cars, like the one I can afford, didn’t have all the interlocks that the cars you rich bastichies think everyone who isn’t scum drive, did indeed lock up the steering wheel when the ignition was turned off.

Several accidents were reported when the gas prices first spiked as drivers tried to save gas by turning off the engine to coast down hill.

There aren’t that many perfectly straight down-hill runs...


59 posted on 07/28/2013 7:39:29 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: null and void

Heck I can even remember when you could move a car whose engine wouldn’t start, by putting it in gear, taking your foot off the clutch, and bumping the starter.

Handy to know should you ever stall out on railroad tracks...


60 posted on 07/28/2013 7:42:13 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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