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Was Trayvon Martin Rear-Ended by Zimmerman? Z was intoxicated with own agenda and ambition
EURWeb ^ | July 9, 2013 | Larry Buford

Posted on 07/09/2013 11:46:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Impala64ssa

I thought that it was another gay marriage thread.


81 posted on 07/09/2013 1:38:18 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These people never get tired of creating new theories as to why Zimmerman is guilty. Reminds me of the four white guys who supposedly killed OJ’s wife.


82 posted on 07/09/2013 1:38:40 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"It would seem the prosecution’s best strategy would have been . . . . . . ."

It seems as though the pursuit of the truth is unimportant. Everything is reduced to a game plan or a strategy to achieve a desired outcome as though this is some kind of athletic competition where you root for your home(boy) team. I understand attorneys have a job to do, but how do you live with yourself knowing you are framing someone, with no regard for what happens if you are successful in swinging a wrong verdict? It seems the guy who wrote this piece is willing to convict on a theory. Doubtful theories are not the threshold of evidence proving guilt the last time I checked, or, maybe they are.

83 posted on 07/09/2013 1:39:23 PM PDT by inpajamas (http://outskirtspress.com/ONE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mister author... just because you are black do you have to be such a racist?


84 posted on 07/09/2013 1:39:53 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Zimmerman was out to kill Martin, why didn’t he shot him sooner?


85 posted on 07/09/2013 1:41:18 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: popdonnelly

Make that “shoot”.


86 posted on 07/09/2013 1:42:37 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: rarestia

No worries. I was just affirming your well stated point.


87 posted on 07/09/2013 1:45:01 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Mr. K
"Trayvon’s mom is a liar. She does not care her young thug was at fault."

Having attended a number of funerals over the years, my conclusion is that a dominant emotion among many who are present is guilt.

Given what I've learned about Trayvon's family history, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that there is a large dose of parental guilt going on here, covered by expressions of anger and externally directed blame as a means of denial, deflection, rationalization and coping with the underlying reality.

88 posted on 07/09/2013 1:48:12 PM PDT by JustTheTruth
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To: KC_Conspirator
I've seen witnesses like the Martin family and they can't be prepped. The father will never believe his explanation for his flip-flop strips him of credibility.

The problem with the cops is they decided to tell the truth.

The problem with the lesser included offenses is that every theory requires the jury to find Zimmerman started the fight and the evidence as it has come in just doesn't support that.

89 posted on 07/09/2013 1:50:24 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Grasping at straws . . ."

The title is the picture of a straw dog and the author, Larry Burford, is that picture.

90 posted on 07/09/2013 1:52:51 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry, defense already Nuked the author’s argument on cross examination to the 911 dispatcher.


91 posted on 07/09/2013 2:00:31 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think there was a sign warning people that there was a town watch in effect in that neighborhood. . Any suspicious behavior was going to be investigated according to the sign if I remember correctly. I don’t think Zimmerman did anything outside the scope of that sign. Anyone within its boundaries should have expected neighbors that were on the alert for trouble. What ever happened to “ See something, say something” that was being touted by Homeland Security ?


92 posted on 07/09/2013 2:28:21 PM PDT by HangingTuff
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To: Ingtar

Does anyone know how far Trayvon’s worthless body was from GZ’s truck? It’s clear that they were pretty close, close enough that it’s hard to argue that GZ followed in any significant sense.


93 posted on 07/09/2013 2:29:44 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: nathanbedford

Precisely sir. The racial industrial complex is in full cry, braying for the judicial system to lynch an innocent man. They desire to shield their lumpenproletariat shock troop thugs from all sudden shock and in the process, intimidate the rest of us into cringing away from a righteous and forthright defense of Zimmerman.

It aint gonna work with me.


94 posted on 07/09/2013 2:30:21 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: Mr. K

What bothers me about using his mother as an authority on his voice, is that she gave him up when he was two. How would she have any familiarity with his voice as a young adult?


95 posted on 07/09/2013 2:34:25 PM PDT by chb
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To: rarestia

The after effects of epinephrine (aka adrenaline) are interesting - while it’s still in the system and no longer needed, once it’s out of your system and you’ve got no blood sugar left, and (as might happen to GZ after a year of fear over this kangaroo court) after a large number of epinephrine events (PTSD).

While it’s still in your system, you can seem jumpy because you react far too quickly to little things, or you can seem unnaturally calm because you have a lot of subjective time to process what is being said/done before it’s time to respond, so that your reactions all seem extremely rational and smooth.

As for once the epinephrine clears your system, it’s a lot like an athlete an hour after a marathon or championship game. You don’t seem like you want to do anything or react to anything - apparent calm.

And in the long run? Zimmerman will probably get meaningful death threats for a long time, and multiple threatening actions that may be real or just intended to intimidate/provoke. If he avoids PTSD, it will be a miracle.


96 posted on 07/09/2013 2:37:38 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

He won’t escape it. If he survives 5 years, I’d be surprised.


97 posted on 07/09/2013 2:46:06 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: nathanbedford
You would be surprised the number of middle class white people that buy this sort of intellectual Koo laid, even in the Deep South. Women especially seem to have invested in the ‘he shot a 16 year old boy who was unarmed. he has to be guilty’ mantra.
98 posted on 07/09/2013 2:48:59 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Grasping at straws now, aren't they?

Yes.

Trying to see where a suspicious person went while the police are en route is not anything remotely approaching a crime.

99 posted on 07/09/2013 3:16:01 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: KC_Conspirator

“If the state wanted to file charges with a reasonable chance of being successful (and fair for that matter), it would have to be a negligence case, not Murder 2.”

A negligent homicide would be one you did not intend; but that you were careless and caused. As far as we know, the gunshot that killed Martin was not an accidental discharge.

BTW, where I live, self defense cannot be used as a defense to a negligent homicide because self-defense is an intentional act.


100 posted on 07/09/2013 4:23:58 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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