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Insight: How a train ran away and devastated a Canadian town
Reuters ^ | Jul 8, 2013 10:06pm | P.J. Huffstutter and Richard Valdmanis

Posted on 07/09/2013 4:43:49 AM PDT by thackney

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To: mandaladon
Something very strange about this incident. Crude oil isn’t all that flammable. Burns like hell once it is started, but needs a real boost to get it going.

I was wondering the same thing. Also one article mentions an explosion, but I don't know if the author meant an "explosion" from collision noise or a 2,000 degree over pressure explosion.

41 posted on 07/09/2013 8:57:41 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: canuck_conservative

Very Interesting. Keep me posted please.

If this was deliberate sabotage they are responsible for multiple murders.

This should give even more importance to the Keystone pipeline.


42 posted on 07/09/2013 9:10:32 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Mycroft Holmes

Perhaps a spring would work better.

No matter the brakes or whatever, a train should never be left alone. IMO.

The cost of one man left with the train is nothing compared to the damage done here.


43 posted on 07/09/2013 9:12:54 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: All
FYI

Westinghouse's 1869 version, the straight or direct air brake, used air hoses to connect the cars. When the engineer turned on the brakes, air pressure turned the brakes on in each car of the train. Of course, if the hoses leaked or disconnected, the train lost braking power.

With air brake 2.0, Westinghouse turned things around. Air pressure kept the brakes off. The engineer reduced pressure to put the brakes on. This built-in safeguard meant a loss of pressure would stop the train automatically. That applied to leakage and to the situation where cars came unhitched: Loose cars would brake to a stop. The system went into use in 1872 on the Pennsylvania Railroad.

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/03/dayintech_0305

44 posted on 07/09/2013 9:33:23 AM PDT by McGruff (I need a new party.)
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To: Abathar

FRED lets engineers know about pressure conditions at the end of the train nowadays (it used to be the guy who road in the caboose).

FRED stands for flashing rear end device, and FRED has a radio transmitter and regularly reports conditions on the air line.


45 posted on 07/09/2013 11:01:16 AM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: NonValueAdded
and those (the hand brakes on some cars) would be the likely source of ignition as the tank cars ruptured

I had wondered how the crude got caught on fire.

A heavy train will roll even if a few cars have hand brakes on.

46 posted on 07/09/2013 2:16:06 PM PDT by spokeshave
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To: Roccus; Venturer
Don't the air brakes lock up when the air pressure in the system falls below a certain point?

In a word, no.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_air_brake

"An air brake is a conveyance braking system actuated by compressed air. Modern trains rely upon a fail-safe air brake system that is based upon a design patented by George Westinghouse on March 5, 1868. The Westinghouse Air Brake Company (WABCO) was subsequently organized to manufacture and sell Westinghouse's invention. In various forms, it has been nearly universally adopted."

While billed as "fail safe" the Westinghouse air brake system can and does sometimes fail, leaving rheostatic brakes (which don't work w/out engines), manual brakes (which were engaged but on only a few cars), and emergency brakes (which are dependent on air pressure which fell to zero when the engine was shut down). Unlike truck brakes which apply with spring pressure and release when pressure is applied, train air brakes are applied and released by raising and lowering the pressure in a line that runs the length of the train. The individual cars apply their brakes using an air reservoir on each car in response to changes in the "train line" pressure.

Regards,
GtG

47 posted on 07/09/2013 6:39:29 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

Doesn’t sound too fail-safe to me.

I really do believe no train should be left running with no one in it.


48 posted on 07/09/2013 7:01:58 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Abathar

All trains have a device on the last car that monitors air pressure and is in radio contact with the head end. It attaches to the air line and is mounted on the knuckle.


49 posted on 07/09/2013 7:32:38 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Dalberg-Acton

It’s called a FRED Unit, which stands for friendly rear-end device. (Sounds kind of gay.)


50 posted on 07/09/2013 7:34:57 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Venturer
Doesn’t sound too fail-safe to me.

Engineers (not train drivers) have a saying: Every time that you make something "fool proof", God makes a more talented fool!

I really do believe no train should be left running with no one in it.

It happens more often then you might suspect, 99.9% of the time it doesn't matter. It's that 0.1% that bites. There are times when it's unavoidable, I would think it a better policy to chock the wheels just to be sure. Trains have four braking systems and that should suffice. This time it wasn't enough to quell the perfect storm. Very sad...

Regards,
GtG

51 posted on 07/09/2013 9:42:00 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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