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Jim Robinson

[varina davis]

Thank the Lord. And thank you Jim.

[EXCH54FE]

“Sadly the 16th Amendment is part of the Constitution, is it not?”

Yes it is and so was probation but it was over turned (now we can drink :-)) and the “Fair Tax” can abolish the 16th Amendment (without the Prebate!!)

Your point about “I'd go with axing the agencies that aren't explicitly-named or implicitly-commissioned in the Constitution” is 100% correct and would help make our Government a lot smaller.

[Weirdad]

Free American Bump !

[OneWingedShark]

Yes it is and so was probation but it was over turned (now we can drink :-)) and the “Fair Tax” can abolish the 16th Amendment (without the Prebate!!)

Prebate is a stupid idea and, if we're fair with ourselves, so is the fair-tax: it involves the FedGov in all sales. (Sure we could manage things easily, maybe a smart-chip in the hand or head…)
I'd actually rather an income tax, and a flat-rate, with no exemptions no write-offs, no credits, no rebates, and no withholding.

[EXCH54FE]

“I'd actually rather an income tax, and a flat-rate, with no exemptions no write-offs, no credits, no rebates, and no withholding”

Correct me if I an wrong, but is that not how our current income tax started?? Way back when the income tax was 1% on only the high income earners. Why should the Government know about out income?

We can now collect sales tax on “New” items without any problems. Point of sale can forward the $$ to the Treasury same as they do now at the state level. No forms required, it may not be perfect but it is a lot better than what we have now.

[Battle Axe]

Amen. God Bless Jim Robinson.

[OneWingedShark]

“I'd actually rather an income tax, and a flat-rate, with no exemptions no write-offs, no credits, no rebates, and no withholding”
Correct me if I an wrong, but is that not how our current income tax started?? Way back when the income tax was 1% on only the high income earners. Why should the Government know about out income?

Perhaps; but if I had my way it'd be a part-and-parcel of 2 Constitutional Amendments, summarized as follows
Money:

1. Sec 1 - Strips Congress of the ability to set value to the Dollar
2. Sec 2 - Sets the value of the Dollar, in terms of avoirdupois ounces of Gold (99.9% pure)
3. Sec 3 - Reiterates the value of Sec 2 in approximate international units. (To guard against congress [ab]using weights and measures to get around Sec 1.)
4. Sec 4 - All payments by the federal government to States or Citizens must be Gold.
5. Sec 5 - The treasury must yearly make an accounting of gold physically in its possession; this report shall be public.
6. Sec 6 - "The Congress shall incur no debt which shall cause the total debt of the United States to exceed 110% of the value of the gold reported by the Treasury."
7. Sec 7 - Any government official, agent, employee, or judge which causes gold to be confiscated from a citizen will be tried for theft, and upon conviction:
   
   1. Be fired immediately.
   2. Lose all pension and retirement benefits.
   3. Restore twice that which was confiscated to the bereaved.
   4. Pay any and all legal fees.

Tax:

1. Sec 1 - Eliminates and prohibits all federal taxes except: proportional or flat-rate on the citizen's income, but not both.
2. Sec 2 - If income is taxed federally, then the rate shall be 1%, 5%, or 10% as the Congress may determine; paid to the federal government directly.
3. Sec 3 - No State, or subdivision thereof or municipality, shall apply a varying rate on incomes taxed.
4. Sec 4 - Explicit re-affirmation of the Federal government's power to lay duties and tariffs on international trade/shipping.

We can now collect sales tax on “New” items without any problems. Point of sale can forward the $$ to the Treasury same as they do now at the state level. No forms required, it may not be perfect but it is a lot better than what we have now.

This is true; but it won't go that way... it'll be put on all sales and thereby feed the beast in an unseen manner [like withholdings do now].

[CatherineofAragon]

Thank you for Free Republic.

[EXCH54FE]

“but if I had my way”

If I had my way king o would be in jail along with most of the Dems and a few of the Reps.

You have some very good points, however they need Constitutional Amendments. With the group in congress now that will never happen.

[PlanToDisappear]

That guy has the John Roberts face/smile.

[TArcher]

>>I fear a revolution is coming,,,and it won’t be pretty.

The XBox generation was manufactured for that purpose.

Most of the Useful Idiots therein have no clue who the Romanovs were - why and by whom they were murdered in their basement... and how they are about to perform as actors in the post-modern edition of the Empire’s very same theatrics.

[trisham]

bump!

[Starboard]

The past shows us that disease can change the course of history.
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Our national disease is economic profligacy. Our reckless spending has put us in the poor house. Look at the last row in this link. The unfunded liabilities for each taxpayer exceeds $1 million. We are in deep financial trouble and that will be the first calamity IMHO.