Posted on 06/23/2013 5:55:07 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
Does that make it right? A majority voted for Obamacare. A majority voted for the Iraq war.
Right is right. Slavery, no matter the times or the norms are wrong. Period. No man is inferior by nature of their race. Period.
To believe otherwise in 1840, 1860, or 2013 doesn’t matter.
All of the arguments for the confederacy lose the second emancipation is not the first order of business.
Your lawn must be getting long, my slave lovin rebel friend.
Actually, I was referring to beasyiality. For either his “nigress” was a human—held as a slave—or she was less than human. In his words, likened to a “pet.”
So, he is either not a true American who believes in all people being created equal, as someone advocating that holding a person as a slave is proof of their inferiority.
Or he f**ks his pets.
I don’t really even need to know, for his hand would be unclean were he to offer it upon meeting.
“No man is inferior by nature of their race. Period.”
That’s not what Lincoln said. He said negros were inferior, have no business marrying white women, and should not be allowed in Illinois. He hated slavery but he also thought of blacks as inferior.
“Your thin understanding of history fails you so you resort to insults.”
Thin? Really? I understand history so well that I don’t hate the southern half of the US as you do. I am not a bigot hating half the country as you have demonstrated, and I am southern to my roots.
Interesting that you get corrected with nearly every post on the historical facts of the period, yet, you throw out the claim that I am the one with thin knowledge of history.
Typical bigot: Ignorant, yet he sees the world as ignorant.
If a group of Blue states wanted to secede because of Obamacare that would be their right. Get it?
That's really too funny! Pot=Kettle=Toad
I am not TALKING about Lincoln. I am talking about you guys making the arguments.
You justify the actions of holding slaves based on the norms of the day. I would like, just once, one of you guys to admit that holding slaves then, now, 1,000 years ago and 1,000 years from now is wrong. Just outright wrong.
I have yet to have one of you admit to that, for fear of admitting to yourself that you DO think that you are superior to other races.
And we wonder why Jamie Foxx takes such enjoyment out of “killing white folk.” One just needs to read one of these Civil War threads to understand why he feels that way.
I would, just one time, like to be able to point to a single post on one of these stupid, infantile, threads where we can ALL agree that holding another human being in bondage, against their free will, is just morally wrong.
Just once.
And I swear before God Almighty, that I will never post on a Free Republic Lincoln or Civil War thread again.
No. They would not have that right.
I disagree with Obamacare in ways you cannot begin to imagine. I’ve lived under Romneycare for far too long already.
But I am not going to start an armed rebellion over it.
I'm sorry to hear you say that. Your perspective is important and you shouldn't let these morons get to you. Either way, best of luck to you.
Ok another misconception Yankees seem to have, that secession equates to war. Secession does not mean war, at all. It only equates to war to Yankees because historically they are bloodthirsty tyrants who feel superior to everyone.
“You justify the actions of holding slaves based on the norms of the day”
No, we don’t. That’s just you and your liberal public school education doing your thinking for you. The Union held slaves just as much but you want to attribute slavery to just the Confederates. Why is that? Slavery was started by a black man in Connecticut, a northern State. Union States held slaves at the start of the Civil War. Every State had anti-black laws. yet, you bigotedly want to lay slavery only at the feet of southerners.
You are by a very strict definition a bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance.
Old comeback. Got one that doesn’t fart dust? (See, I can be a third grader, too.)
You just described Robert Lee and Stonewall Jackson, except for the 'hating slavery' and 'Illinois' parts. How do you feel about those two gentlemen?
"Drat, foiled again by that crafty Lincoln's scheme to make the British feel they have to make a moral choice to support or reject slavery and ruining our plan to drag them into the war on our side. How dare he!"
” Lincoln’s intentions, as well as that of many northern politicians, were summarized by Stephen Douglas during the presidential debates...
Which shows what kind of history scholar Walter Williams is. There were no Presidential debates in 1860. Douglas and Lincoln debated in 1858, while running for senate.
“You just described Robert Lee and Stonewall Jackson,”
General Lee was a Union General, made from West Point, a product of the Union army. He also opposed slavery.
You should do your homework before trying to impugn the man. But, I know, your bigoted public school liberal education is going to force you to think that because he was a Confederate General that supported slavery. You won’t be able to shake that thought even though he personally opposed slavery. Of course, that bigoted brainwashing you have will have you believe every single person in the Union was opposed to slavery and none could have possible held slaves.
General Jackson was also a product of the Union West Point. He hated slavery and was known to help slaves, from teaching them when it was illegal to helping them gain freedom, even his own slaves given to him as a present. He was also a great man that did right for his country.
I know, your bigoted ways of liberal thinking hate anything remotely southern so both of these men was the evil. Wait, your a liberal so you have no faith. OK, they were mean men. Big deal. They both had more man within them than your entire family tree will ever have. You’re such a GenWhyMe type.
I wasn’t aware that Jamestown was in Connecticut. Do you suppose they moved it? Or maybe the earth just shifted a bit?
I go for abomination either way.
I actually did get your point.
Americans, with their (professed, anyway) belief in human equality have a particularly difficult ideological problem with justifying slavery.
If you don’t believe all men are created equal, then you can have an infinite spectrum of human rankings, from high to low, with the difference between adjacent ranks minimal.
If you do believe in human equality and own slaves, then you must either reject equality or decide your slaves are not in some sense human.
Like I said when I sit down, put on my grey forage cap and bang at this keyboard in one of these never ending WBTS threads I realize that 150 years ago EVERYONE was a racist, slavery was mainstream. It's the ugly truth. So if you can't handle that truth then AMF.
It's interesting that you would (so ironically) toss this gem around at anyone whose opinions do not comport with you. Congratulations, YOU ARE A BIGOT!
AMF?
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