Posted on 06/14/2013 4:19:50 AM PDT by Kaslin
Then some of our larger states that REGULATE those common carriers (mostly to collect taxes on cable, wires and telephone poles) CONSOLIDATE the data from all of them.
Big gub'mnt is even a problem at the state level.
FIX the problem at the root ~ then you won't need to waste $45 billion a year on an otherwise useless federal agency.
I do not fear corporate data as corporations cannot put me into prison or audit me.
I fear what the NSA can do with the data they have gathered.
You have done everything but condemn the NSA. You have presented bastardized, Orwellian interpreations of the 4th Amendment. In other words, you are a tool of the statists. And the worst part is, you do it willingly. You're too big a fool for anyone to pay you to write this jibberish.
more recently the USSC opened up concealed carry! I think everybody would agree that what the states were doing earlier was UNCONSTITUTIONAL, so why did we end up needing to go to the USSC with the issue?
There are processes set out in the Constitution we can follow far short of armed insurrection ~ not that anybody here has ever advocated that ~ first amendment, written mostly by John Leland ~ pretty well covers the waterfront.
Regarding NSA in particular, it's just another government agency that consolidated a number of activities back in Jimmy Carter's day. As everyone recalls, Jimmuh was the guy who actually implemented the garbage Senator Church advocated ~ getting rid of all in-country on the ground intelligence operations ~ use lots of spy in the sky satellites ~ tap world communications sources.
Work Church backwards to undo that ~ but until we get control of the technology we've unleased in communications, whether or not we have an NSA the Chicoms have access ......... so does everybody else who wants to spend a lot of money on it.
How long you been here?
Recognize it for what it is. A gross criminal violation of the constitution and crime against all Americans and shut the fricken thing down! And jail the perpetrators including Obama and his jackbooted fascist henchmen (his cabinet)!!
Take it elsewhere, jackass.
Second that.
I think the significant item with Snowden is that similar to Mannnig he was not a NSA or CIA employee. Manning was in the army and had access. Snowden was with a “contractor” and had access.
So we have great loyal citizens working hard to protect our nation in the various agencies. The only problem is that the tools they have been given are so powerful and large that the breaching of safegaurds is possible by contractorsm low level adjacent figures and political hacks with too much authority.
The government must be kept very limited in power for just these reasons. It isn’t the agency employees, patriotic, dedicated and trained that get us, its their consultants, wiremen and janitors.
If the tool you have to kill lawn weeds is a flame thrower you can expect some problems — the tool is too powerful.
Can’t say I disagree ~ but we need to also work backwards through the law and UNDO the Church commission recommendations or we’ll just end up in the same place only the next time they’ll be running a secret command operation under cover of some other agency.
Just shut the fricken thing down! No excuses!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3034664/posts
So a citizen complaining about water quality could be classified as a terrorist. Once considered a possible terrorist, that is now a sufficient threshold to open the database on that person. And low-level analysts can make that call.
Wide open to abuse.
And voicing our opinion to our elected servants are what, a sign of agression and mental illness?
I bet it is.. in Obama’s world.
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