Posted on 05/27/2013 9:44:48 AM PDT by VitacoreVision
LOL!
Who cares?
The Boy Scouts have already committed suicide. Screw them.
Yes, it seems more like a weathervane spirit. If it’s really God telling them to stand for some moral position then God with all His almightiness (my spell checker flagged that one) will dig in and be in their foxhole and fight along with them. I respectfully bear witness to Mormons that they are apparently worshiping a cowardly god of this world. (And that there is no way that the being slain of a “spirit brother” could save their souls. That is a God sized task.)
For the Lord’s sake, not the BSA’s sake, don’t saw them off so easily. But fight with spiritual weapons, not fleshly ones.
“Not atheists. Anti-theists.”
Very true. Let’s be perfectly clear about that.
That’s true; there are non-theists (some on FR) who reject (or at least say they reject) believing in God and yet are still willing to live and let live to Christians. God may still have a toehold in their souls, in fact. Word games can be used to mislead and we have to be careful.
The true spirit of Christ (and it can only be had by digging into Christ, so to speak, not by philosophizing) will be to try to separate the sinner from his sin and turn the sinner towards salvation. It inexorably follows from the nature of God.
I.e. while it’s fine to punch back, don’t let that dominate the spiritual conversation. Satan can punch too, and a philosophy of nothing but destructive punches will not (of itself) achieve the Lord’s goal.
The definition of “god” is different in different cultures and Boy Scouts transcends the Judeao-Christian culture
So the spiritual Creator your boys are pledging to is different than what the boys in India Pakistan Israel Africa and 150 other countries and numerous cultures think they are pledging to
But hey. It's all good
Now we'll have to see what the atheists define as their higher spiritual power and how they may amend the oath
For GS they have taken the language and definitions of reverent spirituality described by WSO and when reciting the GS Promise may substitute a name other than “God” that reflects their higher spiritual belief. I'm sure many GS troops here and abroad are using “Allah” instead of God, BS probably also
Am I the only one who sees a major fault of an organization like the Scouts placing leadership in urban centers?
Were another organization to be formed, it would be best for leadership to remain in much smaller towns and more inkeeping with the values and activities of scouting than the plagues of urban life.
Exactly my thoughts. Atheists and Homosexuals share the goal of destruction of the common beliefs, traditions, and societal norms that Americans have shared since inception. Those that spout tolerance have the least of it.
Add in how we have been divided through race, ethnicity, sexual persuasion or perversion, political beliefs, etc, we are about as divided as we can be.
At one time we all saw ourselves as Americans, now we more identify with a particular subset and that was the beginning of the end of us as a nation.
BSA is a private organization. No one has the right to tell them what to think.
Boy scout leadership/pansies.
Gays are content just pushing Christians out of the Boy Scouts. They are compressing the impact of Christians. More and more have taken their kids out of public school and put them in private or home schools. This gives the Satanic Left free run over the secular remains.
I was a Scout... I am 58 so it was still Scouting back then. I loved it... it shaped me into a better man. I know what GOD meant to us and to Scouts at every Jamboree that I attended. It is anti PC to say this but I swear by all that I am that this is the truth. Every Scout that I grew up with were either Christian or Jewish and we both worshiped the same FATHER.
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The trouble all started when the BS decided to accept government funds in any form. All Christian churches should now continue the BS under another name “Christian Scouts” and refuse to accept any gov. funds. The Church can afford to do this and use the church facilities and private locations for their activities. Why let the vacuum continue when God-fearing parents withdraw their children from the BS? What a great opportunity for the churches, especially those who find themselves without a mission and dying for lack of members.
I thought I had heard the chief force was the United Way which isn’t gummit but which does lean liberal.
"He who pays the piper, calls the tune."
Many prefer “non-theist”.
I’m not familiar with all the in’s and out’s of this as to whether it was the major factor. There have been skirmishes IIRC. Like this park or that facility voted the BSA out because it had a no open homosexuality policy. But the larger economic pressure? Wasn’t that folks like United Way, who may have been well meaning but were sorely misguided?
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